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FuDDx
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On July 17 2011 04:06 iNcontroL wrote:
fuddx please stop acting like the frantic girl between two guys arguing... a member of EG was wronged so we are discussing it publicly so everyone can understand why an entire squad of people who had said they'd be somewhere are now not going to be there.
Saying "Lets all be friends!" over and over again isn't actually helping.. anyone...
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still not sure how to respond?????
Ive said what i think in other posts.
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On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote:The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this.
What? iNcontrol made this public. When have I ever started a thread on TL to cause drama for no reason? Please someone show one. I'm pretty sure I never say anything without merit.
You did in fact say you think he's still a cheater and all of this nonsense with DeMusliM, EG, and everyone else there. Your word stands for a lot and it toally undermines everything me and ls are trying to do. All I wanted was for you to talk to me instead of blowing me off so we could resolve everything. I contacted Geoff but you said he just laughed about it and blew it off, then I contacted you and got ls in the convo and you said "I don't care whatever". Finally you come forward and say what you think. That's all I ever asked for was an explanation but I guess ignoring me and joking about what I'm trying to do is hilarious.
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iNcontroL
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skew is lying about machine lying ^_^
Also skew in case you aren't keeping track we have a 100% you are wrong opinion being fielded thus far in this thread.. even spoke with Sixjax about this.
Need to rethink your shitty management of events.. going to end up killing em.
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On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote:
From my past experiences, Lastshadow has previously cheated against me in a WCG qualifier where he had a ref who was obsing our match tell him everything that I was doing in order to get an advantage and beat me. I never said that Lastshadow cheats now, yet from previously dealing with him I know that it would be a possibility. As incontrol has said he has done this numerous times and apologized then continued to do so (all during broodwar). He is obviously a very strong player taking 4th place at MLG last year, from my past experiences with Nick im sure you can all understand my hesitation in completely forgiving / forgetting the past. Even if the question of cheating was irrelevant, why not play it offline anyways, it seems it would be more fun anyways.
Once again you're just bullshitting everything. Just because he thinks there is the possibility of cheating and doesn't 100% trust him does not mean he's calling him a cheater now. He also stated that LS is a very strong player. Right there ^^^^^^!!! and you just ignore it.
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On July 17 2011 04:37 Skew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote:The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this. What? iNcontrol made this public. When have I ever started a thread on TL to cause drama for no reason? Please someone show one. I'm pretty sure I never say anything without merit. You did in fact say you think he's still a cheater and all of this nonsense with DeMusliM, EG, and everyone else there. Your word stands for a lot and it toally undermines everything me and ls are trying to do. All I wanted was for you to talk to me instead of blowing me off so we could resolve everything. I contacted Geoff but you said he just laughed about it and blew it off, then I contacted you and got ls in the convo and you said "I don't care whatever". Finally you come forward and say what you think. That's all I ever asked for was an explanation but I guess ignoring me and joking about what I'm trying to do is hilarious.
You made it public when you tweeted about it first
I never said he still cheats, I did say he has the possibility of still cheating but thats just my opinion.
I get that it must be hard for him to repair his name but in my opinion with how many times he has apologized and the cheated again I think it should be rather hard.
I did not blow you off, without a better way to describe it you were not listening to reason and would not answer my questions so I found it a waste of time to argue with you, and yes in fact I really don't give a damn about any of this. Your digging youself in a hole and as a friend you need to just stop.
I told you all of this, none of this was a joke to me. I understood that you were upset, I was purely just trying to help a friend. It only got comical once you could not / refused to answer my basic questions.
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Hmm this just sucks been looking forward to sunday since the last one
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I was really looking forward to this event with a lot of great players being involved. Sad that it has to get blown up because of petty bullshit like this.
You guys are professionals and I think you should come to a mutual agreement to be bigger people, drop the arguement and make this an awesome lan. Regardless of who is right or who is wrong all this does is shine a negative light on both parties involved.
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Hey, any chance you guys are still gonna be in the AZ area tomorrow? I know that a lot of the disapointed fans would deffintally be cheered up if there was some way to meet you guys. I'm sure many of your fans were looking forward to getting a chance to play against you pros, but im sure they would love just to meet you guys as well.
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Hotkeyit LANs have been put together by SuitGuy and I didn't have the right to make this decision by myself. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. I'm done. I'll be there tomorrow. GL to everyone who comes.
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iNcontroL
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On July 17 2011 04:53 Castrophy wrote:
I was really looking forward to this event with a lot of great players being involved. Sad that it has to get blown up because of petty bullshit like this.
You guys are professionals and I think you should come to a mutual agreement to be bigger people, drop the arguement and make this an awesome lan. Regardless of who is right or who is wrong all this does is shine a negative light on both parties involved.
Excuse me? What resolution do you want EG to offer?
We show up and play without Machine? We let Skew call Machine a liar and just shrug it off?
How is EG in a negative light here?
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I have been reviewing the information from both Skew and Machine over the past 3+ hours. Sorry for taking so long to make a statement, just wanted to get as much information as I could to make as fair a decision as possible for all parties involved.
It is my opinion that the matter between Skew and Machine/EG is that of a personal nature. In no official capacity is Machine or any other member of EG barred from playing in this event. It saddens me that friends that go so far back can so quickly be divided by something so silly and childish. I truly hope that they come to terms and continue being friends. I invite all our friends from EG to play in tomorrow's event despite last night/today's transgressions.
I hope that we all, as a community, can put this dark moment behind us and come together for what these tournaments truly are, a spectacle of competition in the game we love among some of the very best the game has to offer.
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FuDDx
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On July 17 2011 04:59 SuitGuy wrote:
I have been reviewing the information from both Skew and Machine over the past 3+ hours. Sorry for taking so long to make a statement, just wanted to get as much information as I could to make as fair a decision as possible for all parties involved.
It is my opinion that the matter between Skew and Machine/EG is that of a personal nature. In no official capacity is Machine or any other member of EG barred from playing in this event. It saddens me that friends that go so far back can so quickly be divided by something so silly and childish. I truly hope that they come to terms and continue being friends. I invite all our friends from EG to play in tomorrow's event despite last night/today's transgressions.
I hope that we all, as a community, can put this dark moment behind us and come together for what these tournaments truly are, a spectacle of competition in the game we love among some of the very best the game has to offer.
here here
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theres a reason your called the suit guy very nice bro
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Suit refers to clothing pyre 
It should be sweet guy ^_^;
Hopefully his reply resolves any issues for this and any future events.
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also just not the cloth but the bossiness way he just spoke lol me im just a dirt bag who love to use the F word alot
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completely understandable by EG to support machine and to not show up
but sad i don't need to bring this handle of vodka for him =[
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iNcontroL
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ty suitguy  Will talk it over with EG guys but I am urging them to go.. we truly want to compete/meet our new community. Skew getting inbetween that was some dumb shit but we can overlook that as long as Machine isn't banned (like you said).
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On July 17 2011 04:40 iNcontroL wrote:
Need to rethink your shitty management of events.. going to end up killing em.
Oh the irony.
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