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PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
June 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#4561
Can't wait for Huk v. Idra. Should be epic per usual.
velocityqt
Profile Joined June 2011
121 Posts
June 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#4562
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.

its basicially hard counter to 3wg expo, going 1 gate expo has way better chance to hold it
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
June 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#4563
What's the exact build order for this allin?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#4564
haha hasuobs studying huks streams
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#4565
i think prisms are good because the terran has to pull back his forces to defend his mineral line
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13021 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4566
On June 26 2011 02:42 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:41 ForTheDr3am wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:40 Heavenly wrote:
Thorzain ALWAYS does this build, it's disappointing. He used it to get one of his wins against MC at MLG and he used twice against Naniwa in the TSL Final.


Why wouldn't he, free wins are great.


Because it's a stupid all-in based completely on whether or not the protoss is good enough to hold it, not your own skill?

Lol. So why the terran having the most success with this build in Korea is MarineKing, and in foreign scene ThorZain, both players with above average control?
WriterMaru
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 17:46:20
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4567
On June 26 2011 02:44 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:42 Heavenly wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:41 ForTheDr3am wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:40 Heavenly wrote:
Thorzain ALWAYS does this build, it's disappointing. He used it to get one of his wins against MC at MLG and he used twice against Naniwa in the TSL Final.


Why wouldn't he, free wins are great.


Because it's a stupid all-in based completely on whether or not the protoss is good enough to hold it, not your own skill?

You do realise you summed up almost every game of starcraft.


Every game of starcraft is an unscoutable one-base all in completely based on whether your opponent can hold it? Cool.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
sail
Profile Joined September 2010
United States127 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4568
"Helped you make a pylon inside his base" hahahahahaha
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 17:46:35
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4569
On June 26 2011 02:44 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:43 dpL wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.

Stopping the siege, attack the Terran halfway there. If he sieges, don't fight for the expansion, go one base.


but that's exactly what Sase did..

His strategy was right, but his micro was bad, he got wailed on by sieged tanks for so so long. Needed to target them asap with the stalkers. You can clean up the marines with reinforcements.
sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4570
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.


this tougher to stop when it has more banshees... the normal one has more marines and Artosis notes a quick colossi is essential... but with banshees... tough cos Stalkers get brutalized by Siege mode... soo yeah this is a good push all-in that looks too strong right now... secret base? or a few phoenix? hard on 1 base though.... blink + immortal?
Stormbringer!!!
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4571
On June 26 2011 02:44 sefio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:43 dpL wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.

Stopping the siege, attack the Terran halfway there. If he sieges, don't fight for the expansion, go one base.


Yeah get contained by tanks and banshees, that's a great situation.

The Terran is also on 1 base. You need to get enough immortals and gatway units to buffer them, and break out in 1 move. SaSe lost a few smaller armies, so he never had enough units to break the contain.
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4572
On June 26 2011 02:44 sefio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:43 dpL wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.

Stopping the siege, attack the Terran halfway there. If he sieges, don't fight for the expansion, go one base.


Yeah get contained by tanks and banshees, that's a great situation.

It's better than letting him get both an army and the expansion. You need to get tech. Anything really, charge, blink, Colossus, DTs, anything. Either that or kill him before he sieges, it's pretty simple.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4573
On June 26 2011 02:45 thoradycus wrote:
i think prisms are good because the terran has to pull back his forces to defend his mineral line

Wouldn't most terrans just base trade?
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4574
On June 26 2011 02:43 marcesr wrote:
Man Rotti + Tod + Hasu, so awesome :DD

I really didnt know how awesome Tod is.


Indeed HSC is so fucking amazing at showing off the awesome personalities of the players.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4575
If you recognise it in time a few phoenixes do surprisingly well aswell... altho this is low master so perhaps I dont know what the fuck i'm talking about in regards to their level =)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4576
On June 26 2011 02:45 velocityqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:42 ondik wrote:
this terran push is just ridiculous, I saw Thorzain doing this allin many times and he always walks over his opponent. What is the best toss reaction in theory? Sase seemed to play really great but lost nevertheless.

its basicially hard counter to 3wg expo, going 1 gate expo has way better chance to hold it


it's the hard counter to the only stable opening that protoss has against terran? interesting
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
June 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#4577
I think Idras got this one in the bag
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
June 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#4578
MAIN EVENT coming up
74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 17:47:37
June 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#4579
On June 26 2011 02:46 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 02:42 Heavenly wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:41 ForTheDr3am wrote:
On June 26 2011 02:40 Heavenly wrote:
Thorzain ALWAYS does this build, it's disappointing. He used it to get one of his wins against MC at MLG and he used twice against Naniwa in the TSL Final.


Why wouldn't he, free wins are great.


Because it's a stupid all-in based completely on whether or not the protoss is good enough to hold it, not your own skill?

Lol. So why the terran having the most success with this build in Korea is MarineKing, and in foreign scene ThorZain, both players with above average control?


Every terran has success with this build in Korea? I've seen it beaten once by MC because Ryung messed up his focus firing and once by Huk because MMA didn't push forward aggressively enough, that's about it.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Fire13
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany102 Posts
June 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#4580
omg Idra vs. Huk coming now !!!

this is so cool
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