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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3521
On June 23 2011 20:44 ondik wrote:
Just tuned in. How's the new commentator?

Not as good as tastosis or day9, better than NASL. (But then they could improve.) Mostly very relaxed casts.
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3522
On June 23 2011 20:44 ondik wrote:
Just tuned in. How's the new commentator?


He's pretty decent, Wolf speaks a lot more but this is his partner's debut so he will get much better.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3523
DRG has a good chance of winning GSL if he makes it to code S. Majority of zergs in code S weakest matchup is ZvT while the latter, ZvP/ZvZ is ruled by Nestea. If nestea and DRG teamed up, the QQ would be delicious.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3524
I actually think Unstable's commentary has stabilized a little. He can probably be great in a month or so!
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3525
omg, the Terran is walling in! What madness is this?
Seki Santoku
Profile Joined July 2010
United States105 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3526
come on MMA! you and slayers are on my team... GIVEME ZEPOINTS!!!!!
"LiquidNony fighting"
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3527
On June 23 2011 20:45 Talin wrote:
Come on MMA, be the Bisu we need. <3

You want MMA to be inconsistent? T_T
Hi!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 23 2011 11:46 GMT
#3528
Game 7 Start
SlayerS V MVP
Current score: 3-3
Map: Xel'Naga Fortress
MMA at 7 o'clock
DongRaeGu at 11 o'clock
lalala
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3529
On June 23 2011 20:46 asperger wrote:
I actually think Unstable's commentary has stabilized a little. He can probably be great in a month or so!


I actually think it's still quite unstable :D:D:D:D
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3530
Maka rax for MMA
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3531
heereee we go
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3532
Wolf be pulling a moletrap
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3533
On June 23 2011 20:45 pdd wrote:
MMA is 6-0 vZ in Korea and 15-3 vZ internationally (only losses to Losira, Strifecro and dignitas.Killer)


DRG's ZvT is better than all the zergs you mentioned... it's better than every zerg in fact. Time to rewrite those history books on MMA's TvZ!
asdfiprod
Profile Joined February 2005
United States34 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3534
MMA is going to make this hard to watch Going to lose my fantasy
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3535
Seems like XNFortress is slightly T favored, that surprise me.
GOGO DRG FOR MY FT <3
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 11:47:43
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3536
On June 23 2011 20:46 youngminii wrote:
Game 7 Start
SlayerS V MVP
Current score: 3-3
Map: Xel'Naga Fortress
MMA at 7 o'clock
DongRaeGu at 11 o'clock

2:30
DongRaeGu going Hatch first and his scout Drone catches MMA's second Rax which was proxy'd just a little.
lalala
CTRLTiLT
Profile Joined February 2011
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 11:50:49
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3537
On June 23 2011 20:43 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 20:41 CTRLTiLT wrote:
On June 23 2011 20:38 Slimijs wrote:
On June 23 2011 20:36 tomatriedes wrote:
What an AMAZING game! One of the best ZvTs ever!




If Ganzi would have switched to Tanks and made PF, DRG would have lost. Can't call it an amazing game, if one of the players bombs it in the late game.



You can't just theorycraft a game like that. Ganzi had 1 fact reactor pumping hellions which helped him fend off all the ling counters. pumping tanks off 1 factory vs an extremely mobile zerg army isnt going to do anything. Ganzi's plan was to keep map control with both watch towers and with that, he wouldn't need a planetary. Orbitals also give you the lift off option vs mass banelings.

Saying Ganzi "bombed" the late game is perhaps a little too critical...


Not really theory crafting. He wouldn't have lost his 3rd which is why he lost the game. He might have lost it later down the road, but he would have then been prepared for the mutas which he clearly wasn't due to the fact that he had no income due to losing his 3rd to lings because it was an orbital.


You think players at that caliber of skill don't take something so simple into account? Tell me why almost EVERY top terran(mma mvp bomber) makes orbital thirds and fourths? Every little edge you gain makes a HUGE difference in the game. Whether its stacking scvs on close patches or not getting supply blocked. Just because you cant see the extra mule drops adding up and increasing your macro/edge in battles doesn't mean it doesnt exist. Making a planetary could have cost Ganzi the game because he would've have the extra income from mules or the lifting capability.

pinning "losing the third" for losing the game is an oversimplification that neither of us can make. It seems to me that his micro slipped vs dongraegu in the second battle at mid and he lost a huge chunk of his bio forces due to poor splitting. Think about it this way... he had control of mid with x army(with orbital income) or y army(with planetary). Since y<x and if he holds mid he'll keep his third ANYWAY, having an orbital gives him a larger army and a higher chance of winning the battle at third
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3538
Wow that's a pretty pro place to stick a maka rax
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3539
terran's shouldn't 2 rax DRG. He's so comfortable against it.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
June 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#3540
Maka rax yayyyyyyyy
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
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