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Loire

Singapore1358 Posts

June 23 2011 11:23 GMT

#3061

wow DRGs strength is really holding pressure off.

FaCE_1

Canada6184 Posts

June 23 2011 11:23 GMT

#3062

there is absolutely no one from my fantasy playing today

... so Go Ganzy !! :D

asperger

Sweden1310 Posts

June 23 2011 11:23 GMT

#3063

FFFFFUUUUUUUUU

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

June 23 2011 11:23 GMT

#3064

On June 23 2011 20:15 dabom88 wrote:
Vikings are NOT a substitute for Goliaths. Though technically, i'm not 100% familiar with how Goliaths worked in Brood War and why Thors/Vikings aren't as effective. Obviously they were cheaper. But what made them "effective" against mutas in BW that no Terran Unit can be substituted against Mutas in SC2?

Range upgrade, also they could attack both air and ground without swapping modes.

Another thing is that you have more scans in bw due to no mules - scanning so that your goliaths could get an extra 3-4 hits off was common, while doing it in sc2 isn't economical.

It is important to note that mass mutas can still beat Goliaths, and that it really comes down to upgrades (if Goliaths were 0/0 they were basically useless vs 3/3 mutas, due to their damage being 10x2 - so vs 3/3 they do 14 dmg a volley, while the other way they do 28 or something). There was a weird counter system - if the Z was making tons of mutas, you made goliaths/valks, if they made hydras you wanted Tanks. I have seen games where the T made goliaths all game and the Z made mutas, and the Z still won (at the A/A- iccup level especially on colloseum where you could get 3 gas easily).

Valks are the real counterpart to Thors - and Valks are much better because they were far more mobile. Really high armor also made mutas do nothing. Scourge countered them until a certain number, then Z just gave up air superiority.