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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
June 20 2011 02:57 GMT
#12361
Just watched Moon vs white-ra, moon really showed white ra that he is immune to special tactiks.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
June 20 2011 02:58 GMT
#12362
moon is so underrated it's disgusting. he's had good results and people knock on him for being out of code a. well he lost to virus in the first round (code s player). you all know how tough code s/a, especially since so many top players got knocked out in the early rounds of the super tournament. its painful to hear people go "the koreans + moon".
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
June 20 2011 03:03 GMT
#12363
On June 20 2011 11:21 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 11:19 thepuppyassassin wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:17 jj33 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:13 RevLesMis wrote:
after this shit i have to completely agree with CatZ. we need to get the koreans out of foreign tournaments. no racism just saying this is stupid if i wanted to see koreans playing every effing tournament i would watch the GSL,



Why bother watching sc2? A person who appreciates sc2 would watch regardless of the race/nationality.

You're obviously a racist. Don't bother watching then.

And catz's argument is retarded. Translation for his argument is this: " I can't dream of competing against Koreans so please ban them so I might win one lan".

so sad because he'll never win vs other NA players anyways.


Where does catz say this? I wanna see the post.



Deep down you know this is the real reason. As much as the foreigners try to hide it, this is the reason why they don't want koreans at foreign tournaments or to try out for gsl.


No seriously. That's a comment that should be in quotes. I've been looking for it... I'm blind but i can't find the "search this thread" function
Bandino
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
June 20 2011 03:03 GMT
#12364
moon is so underrated it's disgusting. he's had good results and people knock on him for being out of code a. well he lost to virus in the first round (code s player). you all know how tough code s/a, especially since so many top players got knocked out in the early rounds of the super tournament. its painful to hear people go "the koreans + moon".


So true, he's been playing so well lately but people just don't give him credit.
ken-
Profile Joined May 2011
63 Posts
June 20 2011 03:05 GMT
#12365
On June 20 2011 11:54 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

Maybe that wasn't evident at the time?

I mean it's like they say, hindsight is 20-20.


He never does it ever... vs MC at least. He's 2-8 against the guy now and he continues to use the same unit comp every game.
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
June 20 2011 03:05 GMT
#12366
Anyone else really want more player reactions after matches? I miss that a lot from DREAMHACK INVITATIONAL where we got to see players after they won. WHERE IS THAT AWESOME MC TOO who interviewed the players after they won? No player reactions =
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
June 20 2011 03:08 GMT
#12367
I think Moon is really underrated.
He is code a level at least
Protosser
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
June 20 2011 03:09 GMT
#12368
GO HUKKIE BOMBER
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 03:14 GMT
#12369
On June 20 2011 12:05 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 11:54 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

Maybe that wasn't evident at the time?

I mean it's like they say, hindsight is 20-20.


He never does it ever... vs MC at least. He's 2-8 against the guy now and he continues to use the same unit comp every game.

Well that's what happens when someone's in your head.

Once IdrA fixes his mental game he will be so so scary. Right now I sorta look at him and I'm like "He'll do well against weaker opponents but when it comes to really good players he'll fall apart."
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 20 2011 03:14 GMT
#12370
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

I think MC had cannons at his expos.
MC for president
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 20 2011 03:16 GMT
#12371
On June 20 2011 12:05 SpecFire wrote:
Anyone else really want more player reactions after matches? I miss that a lot from DREAMHACK INVITATIONAL where we got to see players after they won. WHERE IS THAT AWESOME MC TOO who interviewed the players after they won? No player reactions =

Agreed. Kinda sux we don't get to see MC's almost comic book ceremonies. I hope they change this in RO8.
MC for president
Riyomori
Profile Joined July 2009
Singapore316 Posts
June 20 2011 03:17 GMT
#12372
wow just watched huk vs moon game 1. what an insane game!
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 20 2011 03:19 GMT
#12373
Idra's proclivity to ignore positioning kills him as always. Both games against MC he put himself in positions where MC could put great forcefields. Using drops would be so much better, plus buying him more time to reproduce his army.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
June 20 2011 03:22 GMT
#12374
Is Sen vs Sase's vods up??
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 03:29:29
June 20 2011 03:26 GMT
#12375
On June 20 2011 12:19 AndAgain wrote:
Idra's proclivity to ignore positioning kills him as always. Both games against MC he put himself in positions where MC could put great forcefields. Using drops would be so much better, plus buying him more time to reproduce his army.


Also giving MC more time to make more stalkers.

MC knows how to stop drops with blink stalkers and would be expecting it on metalopolis.

On June 20 2011 12:14 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:05 ken- wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:54 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

Maybe that wasn't evident at the time?

I mean it's like they say, hindsight is 20-20.


He never does it ever... vs MC at least. He's 2-8 against the guy now and he continues to use the same unit comp every game.

Well that's what happens when someone's in your head.

Once IdrA fixes his mental game he will be so so scary. Right now I sorta look at him and I'm like "He'll do well against weaker opponents but when it comes to really good players he'll fall apart."


Holy crap are you for real?

He played two close games against the BEST PROTOSS IN THE FUCKING WORLD.

He didn't fall apart at all. He has a weak matchup.

Losira sucks at TvZ and July sucks at ZvZ, big deal.

Only NesTea, MC, Bomber, MVP, and MKP don't seem to have a weak matchup, every other top player does.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 20 2011 03:29 GMT
#12376
where can I watch the VODs ?
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 20 2011 03:29 GMT
#12377
On June 20 2011 12:26 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:19 AndAgain wrote:
Idra's proclivity to ignore positioning kills him as always. Both games against MC he put himself in positions where MC could put great forcefields. Using drops would be so much better, plus buying him more time to reproduce his army.


Also giving MC more time to make more stalkers.

MC knows how to stop drops with blink stalkers and would be expecting it on metalopolis.

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:14 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 12:05 ken- wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:54 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

Maybe that wasn't evident at the time?

I mean it's like they say, hindsight is 20-20.


He never does it ever... vs MC at least. He's 2-8 against the guy now and he continues to use the same unit comp every game.

Well that's what happens when someone's in your head.

Once IdrA fixes his mental game he will be so so scary. Right now I sorta look at him and I'm like "He'll do well against weaker opponents but when it comes to really good players he'll fall apart."


Holy shit are you for real?

He played two close games against the BEST PROTOSS IN THE FUCKING WORLD.

He didn't fall apart at all. He has a weak matchup.

Losira sucks at TvZ and July sucks at ZvZ, big deal.

Only NesTea, MC, Bomber, MVP, and MKP don't seem to have a weak matchup, every other top player does.

This, Idra didn't do poorly. He could stand to drop the defeatist attitude against protoss but despite that he put up a good fight.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 03:32:03
June 20 2011 03:31 GMT
#12378
On June 20 2011 12:26 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:19 AndAgain wrote:
Idra's proclivity to ignore positioning kills him as always. Both games against MC he put himself in positions where MC could put great forcefields. Using drops would be so much better, plus buying him more time to reproduce his army.


Also giving MC more time to make more stalkers.

MC knows how to stop drops with blink stalkers and would be expecting it on metalopolis.



MC also knows how to stop roaches and lings when they just show up in front of his army in plain view. The question is what would give Idra a better chance of winning. I would have liked to see some drop play with may be 2 prong at the front. Plus drops is a good way to punish a protoss for having a lot sentries.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
June 20 2011 03:32 GMT
#12379
On June 20 2011 12:22 FindMeInKenya wrote:
Is Sen vs Sase's vods up??


http://blip.tv/day9tv

Scroll down
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#12380
On June 20 2011 12:26 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:19 AndAgain wrote:
Idra's proclivity to ignore positioning kills him as always. Both games against MC he put himself in positions where MC could put great forcefields. Using drops would be so much better, plus buying him more time to reproduce his army.


Also giving MC more time to make more stalkers.

MC knows how to stop drops with blink stalkers and would be expecting it on metalopolis.

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 12:14 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 12:05 ken- wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:54 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 11:52 ken- wrote:
Idra is the only zerg I've seen who doesn't abuse speedlings against protoss. G2 he could have easily kept like 10 lings at MC's 4th and sent them into his natural when MC went all in.

Maybe that wasn't evident at the time?

I mean it's like they say, hindsight is 20-20.


He never does it ever... vs MC at least. He's 2-8 against the guy now and he continues to use the same unit comp every game.

Well that's what happens when someone's in your head.

Once IdrA fixes his mental game he will be so so scary. Right now I sorta look at him and I'm like "He'll do well against weaker opponents but when it comes to really good players he'll fall apart."


Holy crap are you for real?

He played two close games against the BEST PROTOSS IN THE FUCKING WORLD.

He didn't fall apart at all. He has a weak matchup.

Losira sucks at TvZ and July sucks at ZvZ, big deal.

Only NesTea, MC, Bomber, MVP, and MKP don't seem to have a weak matchup, every other top player does.

You took my post wrong. I never said he fell apart against MC. Not at all, he played really well in fact. Looked like he was gonna win in both games at points actually. All I said is when I look at him, I get this feeling that he WILL fall apart against these much better players like MC. Not that he does.

Now he did sorta fall apart at MLG though.

Also I was only introduced to SC2 during MLG Columbus, so this is just based off of my personal observations.
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