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On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!) Warned! http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdfImportant bits are: "The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players." So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head. Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition. As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.
That's a weird way to count wins.
If you go by normal sports rules they both have 3 wins with a score difference of +1.
That's tied.
Then you go for highest score which is Idra 7-6 > 6-5
If still tied you go head to head, Idra > Grubby.
Sometimes you go head to head then score, in this particular case it doesn't matter.
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Both players maxed, Tarson is still holding back
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Sjow actually built a sensor tower?
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On June 19 2011 07:06 stork4ever wrote:
I hope Idra didn't just rage, left the building and hopped on a plane home....though would that surprise anyone?
He didn't seem to be raging at all judging from his games, he stayed long enough to know it was over for sure and GG'd in all of them.
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On June 19 2011 07:04 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 06:59 Ocedic wrote:On June 19 2011 06:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 19 2011 06:56 puzzl wrote:On June 19 2011 06:52 Engore wrote:On June 19 2011 06:50 Rawr wrote:On June 19 2011 06:45 grobo wrote:On June 19 2011 06:42 Ysellian wrote:On June 19 2011 06:41 grobo wrote:On June 19 2011 06:41 Zane wrote:
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Because Grubby is more awesome than IdrA? Yeah, great, just the answer i was looking for. sigh.. Idra was said to be sick today so perhaps he pulled out? Hoping it's not true though I prefer to see Idra. (yes very unpatriotic from myself) Yeah that makes more sense, a shame though. =/ Grubby went 3-2 (6-5). Idra also went 3-2 but with 7-6. If dreamhack thinks 6-5 is better than 7-6, they are going to put Grubby higher. And Grubby is also more awesome, which counts. So grubby can get outted in the next round? IdrA beat grubby anyways so i would think that they would go to that for a tiebreaker as well. Which should mean IdrA in all possible situations unless he did withdraw. Which i kinda doubt because i haven't seen any twitter update or FB from Eg about that. I'd think that'd be the tiebreaker too, but it could be whoever has less total losses comes before player vs player tiebreak, which would explain the situation. Official rules anywhere? That would be the dumbest tie break ever, especially when Idra has more wins. If its anything but head to head, its fucked up. Uh, disagree. If two players (A and B) went 10-1 in their matchups, with player B's only loss against player A, but player B went 2-0 in every game exception for the 1-2 loss, yet player A went 2-1... sorry but I would consider player B the stronger player. Less blind bias please and use some logic. What? So your saying even though B lost to A he is the stronger player?
If oGsInca beats oGsMC in a PvP is he a stronger player than MC?
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Oh my god this mutalisk control is making me sick... this is just awful
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It would be really weird for Idra to travel to Sweden and then forfeit. He must be seriously sick if that's the case.
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On June 19 2011 07:04 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 19 2011 06:58 Drazerk wrote:
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Hellions do little damage
Another reactor on the second factory
7:30 Lair starting for Moon 8:10 Baneling nest and evo chamber for moon Starport on the way for Tarson 8:50 Combat shield on the way for Tarson Baneling speed melee +1 and spire for Moon
9:50 Tarson taking out overlords with a viking Third base on the way for Moon 10:50 Siege tech finishes Burrow almost finished along with Mutas 11:50 Double expand on the way for Moon 12:30 Attack at the fifth of moon 13:30 Drops being denied for Tarson Burrowed ling at the Third of Tarson 15:00 Third of Tarson now lands
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Pathogen gland and hive for Moon
Tarson looking to move out
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Tarson pushing out!!
Moon vying for position!
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On June 19 2011 07:04 plaSsoN wrote:
Grubby has the higher win rate:
Grubby - 6/11 is about 54,5%
Idra - 7/13 is about 53,8%
This way it seems quite reasonable to me why Grubby advances.
IdrA won head to head.. to me that means IdrA is the better player here.
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Ho-ly-shit. 45,000+ veiwers. WOW.
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On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!) Warned! http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdfImportant bits are: "The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players." So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head. Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition. As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.
Well by game wins it could be argued they are tied, Idra has 7 wins 6 losses, while Grubby has 6 wins and 5 losses, putting them both at +1. This would give Idra the go ahead with the head to head.
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are they gonna show Hasuobs vs July? or has that game already been played
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Oooh tank smashes a cluster of ling/blings!
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both players now maxed. moon getting hive and upgrades, tarson now pushing out!!
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stop tarson...stop un-seiging all at once..
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imba tankshot killing like 10 blings
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EPT
