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TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10921
On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!)


Warned!

http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdf

Important bits are:

"The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players."

So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head.

Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition.

As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.



That's a weird way to count wins.
If you go by normal sports rules they both have 3 wins with a score difference of +1.
That's tied.
Then you go for highest score which is Idra 7-6 > 6-5
If still tied you go head to head, Idra > Grubby.
Sometimes you go head to head then score, in this particular case it doesn't matter.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10922
Both players maxed, Tarson is still holding back
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10923
http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacksc2/b/288344241

MC casting at the 5:30 minute mark! NICE
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10924
How many leengs?
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10925
Sjow actually built a sensor tower?
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10926
On June 19 2011 07:06 stork4ever wrote:
I hope Idra didn't just rage, left the building and hopped on a plane home....though would that surprise anyone?


He didn't seem to be raging at all judging from his games, he stayed long enough to know it was over for sure and GG'd in all of them.
ㅈㅈ
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10927
On June 19 2011 07:04 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:59 Ocedic wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:56 puzzl wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:52 Engore wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:50 Rawr wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:45 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:42 Ysellian wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 Zane wrote:
[quote]
Because Grubby is more awesome than IdrA?


Yeah, great, just the answer i was looking for.

sigh..


Idra was said to be sick today so perhaps he pulled out? Hoping it's not true though I prefer to see Idra. (yes very unpatriotic from myself)


Yeah that makes more sense, a shame though. =/


Grubby went 3-2 (6-5).

Idra also went 3-2 but with 7-6.

If dreamhack thinks 6-5 is better than 7-6, they are going to put Grubby higher. And Grubby is also more awesome, which counts.


So grubby can get outted in the next round? IdrA beat grubby anyways so i would think that they would go to that for a tiebreaker as well. Which should mean IdrA in all possible situations unless he did withdraw. Which i kinda doubt because i haven't seen any twitter update or FB from Eg about that.


I'd think that'd be the tiebreaker too, but it could be whoever has less total losses comes before player vs player tiebreak, which would explain the situation. Official rules anywhere?

That would be the dumbest tie break ever, especially when Idra has more wins. If its anything but head to head, its fucked up.


Uh, disagree. If two players (A and B) went 10-1 in their matchups, with player B's only loss against player A, but player B went 2-0 in every game exception for the 1-2 loss, yet player A went 2-1... sorry but I would consider player B the stronger player. Less blind bias please and use some logic.

What? So your saying even though B lost to A he is the stronger player?

If oGsInca beats oGsMC in a PvP is he a stronger player than MC?
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10928
Oh my god this mutalisk control is making me sick... this is just awful
in a state of trance
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10929
It would be really weird for Idra to travel to Sweden and then forfeit. He must be seriously sick if that's the case.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10930
61 banelings... 0_o
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10931
On June 19 2011 07:04 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:03 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:01 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:58 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

6:30

Hellions do little damage

Another reactor on the second factory


7:30

Lair starting for Moon


8:10

Baneling nest and evo chamber for moon

Starport on the way for Tarson


8:50

Combat shield on the way for Tarson

Baneling speed melee +1 and spire for Moon


9:50


Tarson taking out overlords with a viking

Third base on the way for Moon


10:50

Siege tech finishes

Burrow almost finished along with Mutas


11:50

Double expand on the way for Moon


12:30

Attack at the fifth of moon


13:30

Drops being denied for Tarson

Burrowed ling at the Third of Tarson


15:00

Third of Tarson now lands


18:30

Pathogen gland and hive for Moon

Tarson looking to move out

Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10932
Tarson pushing out!!

Moon vying for position!
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10933
On June 19 2011 07:04 plaSsoN wrote:
Grubby has the higher win rate:
Grubby - 6/11 is about 54,5%
Idra - 7/13 is about 53,8%
This way it seems quite reasonable to me why Grubby advances.


IdrA won head to head.. to me that means IdrA is the better player here.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10934
Ho-ly-shit. 45,000+ veiwers. WOW.
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 22:07:50
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10935
On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!)


Warned!

http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdf

Important bits are:

"The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players."

So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head.

Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition.

As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.


Well by game wins it could be argued they are tied, Idra has 7 wins 6 losses, while Grubby has 6 wins and 5 losses, putting them both at +1. This would give Idra the go ahead with the head to head.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10936
are they gonna show Hasuobs vs July? or has that game already been played
Im just a zerg
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10937
Oooh tank smashes a cluster of ling/blings!
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10938
both players now maxed. moon getting hive and upgrades, tarson now pushing out!!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10939
stop tarson...stop un-seiging all at once..
the farm ends here
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#10940
imba tankshot killing like 10 blings
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