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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 22:03 GMT
#10901
moon loses his 4th, but clenaing up the medivacs. tarson now taking his 3rd as moon takes a 4th and 5th
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
hammarfOu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden363 Posts
June 18 2011 22:03 GMT
#10902
cmon sjow!
Jävla Terran!
Marke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden279 Posts
June 18 2011 22:03 GMT
#10903
Maybe im stupid. But the Bracket / Result page dont work for me.
Det är inte lätt när det är svårt
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10904
On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!)


Warned!

http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdf

Important bits are:

"The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players."

So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head.

Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition.

As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.


Thanks for confirming, hopefully Idra didn't opt to drop out.
ㅈㅈ
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10905
On June 19 2011 07:02 godemperor wrote:
Änyone knows result between Sjow and Thorzain?

1:0 for TZain atm, it's still running @ iccuptv
plaSsoN
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 22:11:24
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10906
Edit: Deleted as it is still unknown who advances.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10907
On June 19 2011 07:02 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On the Idra issue (Spoilers, obviously!)


Warned!

http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdf

Important bits are:

"The seed will be decided by won matches, won games and who won the group stage match between possibly tied players."

So, it's Match Wins (record), Games won (total) and then Head to Head.

Idra & Grubby are both at 3-2. Idra @ 7 wins, Grubby @ 6 wins. So Idra wins that tie-break. If they went to Head to Head, Idra won that 2-0. So Idra should advance unless he withdrew from the competition.

As for Dreamhack's posted result, it could just be the result of changing the database and it just updated for some odd reason. We haven't heard anything about Idra dropping out, so it should be Idra until someone gets full word.



That settles who should be advancing(Idra). Haven't seen anything on idras twitter about him withdrawing so we do get to see idra in Ro16.
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
-swordguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States560 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10908
Moon triple expoing like a baws
I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once - William Shakespeare, ‘’Julius Caesar’’
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10909
On June 19 2011 07:03 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:01 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:59 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:57 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

5:30

A lot of speedlings in production

Stim starting for tarson


6:30

Hellions do little damage

Another reactor on the second factory


7:30

Lair starting for Moon


8:10

Baneling nest and evo chamber for moon

Starport on the way for Tarson


8:50

Combat shield on the way for Tarson

Baneling speed melee +1 and spire for Moon


9:50


Tarson taking out overlords with a viking

Third base on the way for Moon


10:50

Siege tech finishes

Burrow almost finished along with Mutas


11:50

Double expand on the way for Moon


12:30

Attack at the fifth of moon


13:30

Drops being denied for Tarson

Burrowed ling at the Third of Tarson


15:00

Third of Tarson now lands
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10910
LOL does Tarson realize that there's a burrowed ling?

Yep, he lands the CC after scanning

Moon is soooo going sauron-mode...hatches everywhere O_O
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10911
On June 19 2011 06:59 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:56 puzzl wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:52 Engore wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:50 Rawr wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:45 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:42 Ysellian wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:40 grobo wrote:
[quote]

Hmm, why though?

Because Grubby is more awesome than IdrA?


Yeah, great, just the answer i was looking for.

sigh..


Idra was said to be sick today so perhaps he pulled out? Hoping it's not true though I prefer to see Idra. (yes very unpatriotic from myself)


Yeah that makes more sense, a shame though. =/


Grubby went 3-2 (6-5).

Idra also went 3-2 but with 7-6.

If dreamhack thinks 6-5 is better than 7-6, they are going to put Grubby higher. And Grubby is also more awesome, which counts.


So grubby can get outted in the next round? IdrA beat grubby anyways so i would think that they would go to that for a tiebreaker as well. Which should mean IdrA in all possible situations unless he did withdraw. Which i kinda doubt because i haven't seen any twitter update or FB from Eg about that.


I'd think that'd be the tiebreaker too, but it could be whoever has less total losses comes before player vs player tiebreak, which would explain the situation. Official rules anywhere?

That would be the dumbest tie break ever, especially when Idra has more wins. If its anything but head to head, its fucked up.


Uh, disagree. If two players (A and B) went 10-1 in their matchups, with player B's only loss against player A, but player B went 2-0 in every game exception for the 1-2 loss, yet player A went 2-1... sorry but I would consider player B the stronger player. Less blind bias please and use some logic.

What? So your saying even though B lost to A he is the stronger player?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10912
On June 19 2011 07:04 plaSsoN wrote:
Grubby has the higher win rate:
Grubby - 6/11 is about 54,5%
Idra - 7/13 is about 53,8%
This way it seems quite reasonable to me why Grubby advances.

It all makes sense now.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#10913
moon doing his crazy expand style, taking a 6th lol. now making a lot of ling bane, i dont see him losing this.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10914
I don't think he actually scanned. There was a missile turret being built in the mineral line.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10915
On June 19 2011 07:04 plaSsoN wrote:
Grubby has the higher win rate:
Grubby - 6/11 is about 54,5%
Idra - 7/13 is about 53,8%
This way it seems quite reasonable to me why Grubby advances.



I still contend in a 2 player tie, in a round robin, that the head to head winner should always advance.
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10916
Holy shit, Tarson with the reaction. Moon pay attention D:<
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10917
On June 19 2011 07:02 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:00 godemperor wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:59 Ocedic wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:56 puzzl wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:52 Engore wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:50 Rawr wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:45 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:42 Ysellian wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 grobo wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, great, just the answer i was looking for.

sigh..


Idra was said to be sick today so perhaps he pulled out? Hoping it's not true though I prefer to see Idra. (yes very unpatriotic from myself)


Yeah that makes more sense, a shame though. =/


Grubby went 3-2 (6-5).

Idra also went 3-2 but with 7-6.

If dreamhack thinks 6-5 is better than 7-6, they are going to put Grubby higher. And Grubby is also more awesome, which counts.


So grubby can get outted in the next round? IdrA beat grubby anyways so i would think that they would go to that for a tiebreaker as well. Which should mean IdrA in all possible situations unless he did withdraw. Which i kinda doubt because i haven't seen any twitter update or FB from Eg about that.


I'd think that'd be the tiebreaker too, but it could be whoever has less total losses comes before player vs player tiebreak, which would explain the situation. Official rules anywhere?

That would be the dumbest tie break ever, especially when Idra has more wins. If its anything but head to head, its fucked up.


Uh, disagree. If two players (A and B) went 10-1 in their matchups, with player B's only loss against player A, but player B went 2-0 in every game exception for the 1-2 loss, yet player A went 2-1... sorry but I would consider player B the stronger player. Less blind bias please and use some logic.

DH's official rules does not cover this which is really irritating. To plays devils advocate, they could go by the "least number of loss


Head to head is just the most fair I hope they just go with that. IdrA beat Grubby 2 - 0 and that should be enough if both players are tied on points.

I disagree. If one player has won all their games 2-0 and lost all their games 1-2 and they are tied with a player who won all their games 2-1 and lost all their games 0-2 and beat the first player. In your scenario the 2nd player would go through even though the 1st player performed better overall in the group.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10918
Moon's map control got here at a great time, but he somewhat loses it by losing all those mutas :O

Moon seems ready to go rich zerg MASSES in a minute or so!
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
June 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#10919
Idra is advancing unless he withdrew.
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
June 18 2011 22:06 GMT
#10920
I hope Idra didn't just rage, left the building and hopped on a plane home....though would that surprise anyone?
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