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Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10761
On June 19 2011 06:47 L3g3nd_ wrote:
5min break now. whats happening in thorzain v sjow/


Waiting for them to start the next game.

Cringing at terrible filler chat from caster.
Love is more fun than hate.
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10762
I need to wake up early tommorow and I will miss the first game -.-
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10763
On June 19 2011 06:47 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:46 Yaotzin wrote:
It's so embarassing for foreigners that a Korean as bad as Moon still owns them.


Moon won 2-0 vs July in MLG and had a better finish than him.
How bad is July in your eyes then?


Totally. Even though it was a best of 3. And ZvZ is a single matchup. Moon is clearly a better player. July is just plain bad. Throws units away like crazy.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10764
Day9 gonna lose his woice if he isnt carefull
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10765
Day9 endorsing the d'Appollo 4th Starcraft resource (after minerals, gas, larva - it's about how urgently do you need to go to the bathroom)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10766
On June 19 2011 06:48 Z3kk wrote:
Ouch, when Day9's voice is like this, you can tell that it's about to crumble...hang in there! His voice holds up well for hours and hours, and then it slightly takes a turn for a worse, and then whoosh D: at least that's what I recall from columbus ><

yeah but i think he knows how to take care of his voice though
i mean
he IS the brother of tasteless
lalala
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10767
On June 19 2011 06:46 Blacktion wrote:
Its sad to say, but if i had to sum up tarsons play in 1 sentence today it would be
"Tanks not seiged"
Hes played well in other areas, but that one thing has been killing him.

Certainly wasnt his problem vs Huk
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#10768
Redeem the terran race tarson! Bad day for the terran warriors so far!
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:50:20
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10769
On June 19 2011 06:47 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:46 Yaotzin wrote:
It's so embarassing for foreigners that a Korean as bad as Moon still owns them.


Moon won 2-0 vs July in MLG and had a better finish than him.
How bad is July in your eyes then?


July is known for his bad ZvZ in sc2. No surprise moon wins him. Infact most foreign zerg can take games off him. I wont be surprised. And moon is really not even code A material.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10770
On June 19 2011 06:47 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:47 cyclone25 wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:46 Yaotzin wrote:
It's so embarassing for foreigners that a Korean as bad as Moon still owns them.


Moon won 2-0 vs July in MLG and had a better finish than him.
How bad is July in your eyes then?

His ZvZ is pretty bad.


Oh ok, I would say that Moon's TvZ is pretty bad then, but it's not. He's been doing very well at MLG/NASL.
Moon is still a very good player, people just expect too much from him. I doubt he's practicing a lot though.
Niklai
Profile Joined March 2011
289 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10771
Nakuwiaj salta Tarsooon! The last hope to take korean today :c

But seriously, give us some great tvz for the end of today's DH
funkyfritter
Profile Joined May 2010
353 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10772
The real issue with Moon is how inconsistent he is. He'll play amazingly well one game and look like a diamond league player the next.
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10773
On June 19 2011 06:45 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:42 Ysellian wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:41 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:40 grobo wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:39 cyclone25 wrote:
Dreamhack just put Grubby in 2nd place in their brackets: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

And I doubt it is a mistake because they had IdrA as 2nd place initially.


Hmm, why though?

Because Grubby is more awesome than IdrA?


Yeah, great, just the answer i was looking for.

sigh..


Idra was said to be sick today so perhaps he pulled out? Hoping it's not true though I prefer to see Idra. (yes very unpatriotic from myself)


Yeah that makes more sense, a shame though. =/


Grubby went 3-2 (6-5).

Idra also went 3-2 but with 7-6.

If dreamhack thinks 6-5 is better than 7-6, they are going to put Grubby higher. And Grubby is also more awesome, which counts.
Joo Se-Hyuk
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10774
On June 19 2011 06:48 Ocedic wrote:
I think people are being overly harsh on Moon. I mean, his micro is almost non-existent, but I have a feeling if he was a foreign player people would just praise his macro skills (which people have done for players like Ret/Idra, who had pretty poor micro in the beginning but awesome macro.)

He's sloppy and unrefined, but saying he sucks? Meh.


Yeah, that was amazing rich zerg play :O
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10775
On June 19 2011 06:49 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:48 Z3kk wrote:
Ouch, when Day9's voice is like this, you can tell that it's about to crumble...hang in there! His voice holds up well for hours and hours, and then it slightly takes a turn for a worse, and then whoosh D: at least that's what I recall from columbus ><

yeah but i think he knows how to take care of his voice though
i mean
he IS the brother of tasteless

Go through 5 cartons during breaks?

:D I jest.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Zath.erin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada429 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10776
On June 19 2011 06:47 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 19 2011 06:34 Ocedic wrote:
On June 19 2011 02:46 whiteLotus wrote:
On June 19 2011 02:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 19 2011 02:43 whiteLotus wrote:
On June 19 2011 02:40 heaven- wrote:
On June 19 2011 02:35 whiteLotus wrote:
so strange lol, every wc3 player is doing amazing EXCEPT grubby lol


well grubby switched around feb giving him 4 months to get to a status that everyone else had almost a year to get to.

and honestly grubby is not doing bad at all.

I dont expect him to be a super hero like he was in wc3, a game he played since like he was 15 years old... but he is gonna be like a strong player.


come on do you even read anything lol, demuslim said already X times, grubby played alot back in BETA, and who cares 4 months or not, he looks bad, no potential tbh


Someone's quick to judge.
Why no potential?


i mean come on, look at all his games, no macro nothing, he gets huge leads and then suddenly loses everything lol, he just looks bad to me, compared to other players who started not that long ago too, he looks just bad


I don't think you'd have that attitude if Grubby had been a BW pro, not a WC3 pro. Two things:

1) You don't know Grubby's situation, how much he practices or how seriously he takes SC2, or if he's had other stuff going on in his life. To assume that he's been straight up training 24/7 for 4 months to produce mediocre results is making an assumption.

2) People are capable of improving in a very short amount of time, regardless of past results. Maybe something will click for him in a month, and he'll suddenly become the bonjwa of SC2.

Flash was not considered a good player for a while, until he had a chance to shine finally. Basically, don't count anyone out :D


Just to add to your true points: Grubby did pretty frickin good overall - players that finished WORSE in their respective groups:
- Tyler
- Morrow
- Nightend
- Kas
- Adel
- TT1

Just because he collapsed vs IdrA everyone is handing him shit, it really should be banworthy after a certain point. No respect for one of the most succesful overall esport-representatives from Europe is really disappointing considering that we are on TL and not some random scrub/kiddy-forum.

I like to judge people from results in tournaments and how well I see how the player does. So atm I think the liquid team, grubby, EGMachine, etc. etc. could use improvements. I would hate to judge grubby on how good he is in WC3 and rather how good he is in SC2. We should respect him I guess on past achievements, but not until he starts showing better results that I will think he is a better player or will shine through.

He finished 3rd in a really difficult 6 man group, why aren't the 3 pro's who finished BELOW him and have probably been playing the game longer then him getting shit?
I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except once my pants are on, i make gold records!
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#10777
which stream is thorzain playing on?
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
June 18 2011 21:51 GMT
#10778
On June 19 2011 06:47 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:46 Yaotzin wrote:
It's so embarassing for foreigners that a Korean as bad as Moon still owns them.


Moon won 2-0 vs July in MLG and had a better finish than him.
How bad is July in your eyes then?


July's ZvZ is notorious for being horrible.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 18 2011 21:51 GMT
#10779
On June 19 2011 06:50 nodule wrote:
which stream is thorzain playing on?

iCCup.tv

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/iCCup.TV
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:52:30
June 18 2011 21:51 GMT
#10780
On June 19 2011 06:47 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:46 Yaotzin wrote:
It's so embarassing for foreigners that a Korean as bad as Moon still owns them.


Moon won 2-0 vs July in MLG and had a better finish than him.
How bad is July in your eyes then?

How bad is July's ZvZ in my eyes, you mean? Quite terrible.

For the record I'm not slagging off Moon for being terrible or whatever. He didn't switch that long ago and it seems he doesn't practice that much. Which is why it's sad that he owns foreigners :/
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