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freddievercetti
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
224 Posts
July 09 2011 06:25 GMT
#201
so when is this starting?
-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
July 09 2011 06:49 GMT
#202
15-20 min
More expensive than a mothership
TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
July 09 2011 08:38 GMT
#203
Wow im late to the party.. Hopefully there were some great games!
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
July 09 2011 08:52 GMT
#204
On June 06 2011 18:43 CheekyDuck wrote:
Attention all NA girls! Bee part of the fun!

must:


Bee a girl
Bee able to skype
Bee on NA server
Bee on time




11 pages and not a single Arrested Development reference. I'm so disappointed.
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 09 2011 08:53 GMT
#205
i think kelly wil win gogo kelly
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
nuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation118 Posts
July 09 2011 16:36 GMT
#206
so, where the photos?

User was warned for this post
once i die, now i'm alive
Koruptor
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 16:52:50
July 09 2011 16:40 GMT
#207
It could be also called "Sexist Cup". And I mean not that it is only for females, but the fact how you present it: pink colors, "girly music", not serious attitude.
Since I'm black, I'm waiting for Negro SC2 Tournament. I wonder will you promote it with HipHop music and put banana as a trophy? Peace.

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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 09 2011 16:43 GMT
#208
On July 01 2011 09:08 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 23:31 Ocedic wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone who tries to organize a female tourney on these forums. Every time some political correctness white knights try to cry sexism. If it weren't for tourneys like these, a lot of females wouldn't want to enter tournaments at all.


don't think you are using white knight correctly LOL


Educate me, internet master.
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 20:12:51
July 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#209
On July 09 2011 13:34 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 13:25 Kahuna. wrote:
SC2 is not like physical sports (e.g. boxing, hockey, basketball, MMA, etc.) where no matter how hard women try, they will always lose to men at the highest level of the sport. SC2 is a game, where you sit at a computer and just use hotkeys and a mouse (both men and women can do this equally well, theoretically at least... unlike in the aforementioned sports). This is why I don't think SC2 should have gender-specific tournaments. It just gives more positive feedback to the laziness of female gamers who don't put forth the necessary effort to get as good as male gamers. That is also pretty much the reason why some top female players, such as Megumi, don't join these kinds of tournaments (+ the whole issue of having a dude play for you while a girl talks into the mic so everyone thinks a girl is playing, but in truth it's just a guy).
Hopefully one day most females decide to level up their game so that tournaments like this can disappear. But nevertheless, best of luck with the tournament... I'm sure it will be fun. =D


As shocking it might be for you not everyone is out to become a mega-gosu-progamer. And there is nothing wrong with that. If a group of people want to have a tournament for their own enjoyment why shouldn't they? I don't care if it's girls, gold league players, punk rockers, elderly people or... to the guy a few post up...yes even blacks. If they want to have their own tournament, why shouldn't they? To save esports lol?

You must think all the tournaments for specifically lower level players are horrible right? What about tournaments just for students? I've seen a few of those. Damn lazy students, I which they could up their game so we don't have any more of those tournaments in the future...

Sorry that I wasn't clear enough in my post. I can see why you may have misinterpreted what my point is. But, please don't come up with your own conclusions about my views, it's pure speculation on your part... I never said anything about lower league tournaments being stupid or that the CSL is a tournament for lazy students. I see no problem with tournaments held for lower level players... the problem is when you divide it up by gender, race, etc. When you do, it implies that women can't compete with men in SC2 which I think is not true (since SC2 is not the same as say boxing or MMA where women actually can't compete with men at the highest level). There is nothing wrong with holding an all Gold level players tournament or one that is college students who are SC2 enthusiasts. But there is something wrong with holding female cups because there is an implication that goes along with it. Skill-based divisions make sense... gender-based, race-based, and any of those other absurd suggestions you made don't make sense... but feel free to organize a blacks only tournament if it makes you happy. To each his own, I guess.
As for your first sentence: "As shocking it might be for you not everyone is out to become a mega-gosu-progamer." No, it is not shocking to me at all. I am one of many who doesn't want to be a "mega-gosu-progamer" either.
"Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 23:50:27
July 09 2011 23:48 GMT
#210
On July 10 2011 01:43 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 09:08 travis wrote:
On June 30 2011 23:31 Ocedic wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone who tries to organize a female tourney on these forums. Every time some political correctness white knights try to cry sexism. If it weren't for tourneys like these, a lot of females wouldn't want to enter tournaments at all.


don't think you are using white knight correctly LOL


Educate me, internet master.


IMHO, The White Knight would be defending the cause of the OP, not attacking it.
In correct context, I believe, you would be considered the White Knight, as you are sticking up for the OP.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong)


As for my opinion, I think any initiative is great, and whomever organizes the tourney can make up the rules as he/she desires. I have no problem with it.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
July 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#211
vods posted here: =P http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242083
More expensive than a mothership
Yuis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada134 Posts
July 11 2011 16:14 GMT
#212
Last time I participated on a regular sc2 tourney, someone knew me and mention that I was a girl... after that I was getting spammed and people were being plain stupid.
So why do I go to female only tourneys? so I avoid all the trouble, play and hf ~
fem-fx.com | "We are not advertising that we are girls, we are advertising that girls do play games and we can be pretty good at it" (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 08:02:56
July 13 2011 07:56 GMT
#213
CheekyDuck, I totally support, and I think all of the SC2/TL community as well, you making a CheekyDuck tournament. In fact, its pretty clear everyone would encourage you to have more tournaments, but using a pink/rainbow/falsetto intro for a girl specific tournament diminishes the skill/serious play of a good players like KellyMilkies or flo. If you were to say make it the CheekyDuck Tournament and have the exact same intro, that would be fine, because those images are attached to your identity.

The issue many of us here have is not you having a tournament, but distinguishing between players based on gender. E-Sports involves sitting at a desk and typing and I doubt muscular development among males is going to seriously give them an advantage over females; KellyMilkies is a thousand times better than I am (a boy), so a girl's tournament is not necessarily for lower level players either.

Yes, Starcraft II is a war game and war is considered a masculine activity (although many historians have indicated war is often feminine) but that doesn't mean each male SC2 player subscribes to being a brute. If you're worried about getting harassed, don't be. It's the internet and it doesn't matter. Plus, you have the other 99% of SC2 players to support you. As Kahuna/LadyRevenge alluded to, there is a difference between a thread for women/korean/gay players to say they play Starcraft and a tournament restricted to said types of players.

We're just saying be yourself and be a part of the community. Join us! (*insert communism joke*)

I hope the next tournament is a CheekyDuck Tournament and not a Girl's Tournament.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
coReY425
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark86 Posts
July 13 2011 08:13 GMT
#214
On July 10 2011 01:40 Koruptor wrote:
It could be also called "Sexist Cup". And I mean not that it is only for females, but the fact how you present it: pink colors, "girly music", not serious attitude.
Since I'm black, I'm waiting for Negro SC2 Tournament. I wonder will you promote it with HipHop music and put banana as a trophy? Peace.

User was warned for this post.


I feel so guilty for laughing at the post :D
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
July 13 2011 08:13 GMT
#215
Hmm. So a platinum league player beat the Master leaguers and won the cup? Interesting.
Marines > everything
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
July 13 2011 08:55 GMT
#216
The winner was Grand Masters not platinum!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 09:07:24
July 13 2011 08:56 GMT
#217
On July 10 2011 05:04 Kahuna. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 13:34 nihlon wrote:
On July 09 2011 13:25 Kahuna. wrote:
SC2 is not like physical sports (e.g. boxing, hockey, basketball, MMA, etc.) where no matter how hard women try, they will always lose to men at the highest level of the sport. SC2 is a game, where you sit at a computer and just use hotkeys and a mouse (both men and women can do this equally well, theoretically at least... unlike in the aforementioned sports). This is why I don't think SC2 should have gender-specific tournaments. It just gives more positive feedback to the laziness of female gamers who don't put forth the necessary effort to get as good as male gamers. That is also pretty much the reason why some top female players, such as Megumi, don't join these kinds of tournaments (+ the whole issue of having a dude play for you while a girl talks into the mic so everyone thinks a girl is playing, but in truth it's just a guy).
Hopefully one day most females decide to level up their game so that tournaments like this can disappear. But nevertheless, best of luck with the tournament... I'm sure it will be fun. =D


As shocking it might be for you not everyone is out to become a mega-gosu-progamer. And there is nothing wrong with that. If a group of people want to have a tournament for their own enjoyment why shouldn't they? I don't care if it's girls, gold league players, punk rockers, elderly people or... to the guy a few post up...yes even blacks. If they want to have their own tournament, why shouldn't they? To save esports lol?

You must think all the tournaments for specifically lower level players are horrible right? What about tournaments just for students? I've seen a few of those. Damn lazy students, I which they could up their game so we don't have any more of those tournaments in the future...

Sorry that I wasn't clear enough in my post. I can see why you may have misinterpreted what my point is. But, please don't come up with your own conclusions about my views, it's pure speculation on your part... I never said anything about lower league tournaments being stupid or that the CSL is a tournament for lazy students. I see no problem with tournaments held for lower level players... the problem is when you divide it up by gender, race, etc. When you do, it implies that women can't compete with men in SC2 which I think is not true (since SC2 is not the same as say boxing or MMA where women actually can't compete with men at the highest level). There is nothing wrong with holding an all Gold level players tournament or one that is college students who are SC2 enthusiasts. But there is something wrong with holding female cups because there is an implication that goes along with it. Skill-based divisions make sense... gender-based, race-based, and any of those other absurd suggestions you made don't make sense... but feel free to organize a blacks only tournament if it makes you happy. To each his own, I guess.
As for your first sentence: "As shocking it might be for you not everyone is out to become a mega-gosu-progamer." No, it is not shocking to me at all. I am one of many who doesn't want to be a "mega-gosu-progamer" either.


I might have not made my point perfectly clear but you clearly missed it.

You write
the problem is when you divide it up by gender, race, etc. When you do, it implies that women can't compete with men in SC2 which I think is not true


IT DOESN'T MATTER.

That's your problem not the organizers of this tournament. I brought up other groups just to say that you can make tournaments for a lot of different groups of people but when it's women suddenly it's a big no no (I liked how you cherry picked the groups from my post you though were fine and ignored the rest as well as the >etc<). It's hypocrisy and biased towards women. . If I make a tournament for blacks, does it also imply blacks can't compete with other people? And what made you think a tournament for black (or another of my "absurd" suggestions) would make me happy exactly? I don't care. And fyi, those wasn't suggestions, they were examples. And since you brought it up, who gets to decide what "makes sense?" You? In that case you have to do better than "it implies" an inaccuracy.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
ampire69
Profile Joined July 2011
Afghanistan7 Posts
July 13 2011 08:59 GMT
#218
On June 10 2011 01:54 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 01:36 Mordiford wrote:
I don't see these tournaments as having any real purpose as an actual competitive medium other than to get more women involved in competitive play, and that's fine, this tournament specifically is fine, but I don't think it's fair to make those comparisons because it's not the same.

You're right, it's not identical. But it's close enough so who cares. It's a fun tournament, this isn't GSL or something.


dont you listen? last warning: GET OUT
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 13 2011 09:04 GMT
#219
On June 07 2011 09:05 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 09:04 Warpath wrote:
must:

Bee a girl
Bee able to skype
Bee on NA server
Bee on time

+ Show Spoiler +

OMGBEES!



and yeah, how you gonna confirm that the player is a girl?


Personally I think they should all have to go topless on stream so we know for sure. There are some girly nerds out there.


Jesus guys... Like, what was that five posts in? six? and already the "OMG BOOBS" comments come out?

They'll probably use skype to confirm.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ampire69
Profile Joined July 2011
Afghanistan7 Posts
July 13 2011 09:15 GMT
#220
confirm that he can bring his sis to say hi i m ladybiatch69i m looking for fun times hihihi then he got mauled by some rdm top 50 who had the same idea he had lol
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