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ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:04:55
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4421
On June 06 2011 02:03 Titorelli wrote:
What's up with all that Gretorp hate? Has he done anything bad or what?

He's a "public figure" now that he is casting NASL. That apparently gives all the twelve-year-olds in the US the right to hate on him for everything little thing he does...
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4422
MMA vs Idra next

“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4423
SjoW is up 1-0 on Moon atm.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4424
On June 06 2011 02:03 Brad wrote:
ZERG.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


lol at the last pic
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Shooks
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia256 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4425
On June 06 2011 02:01 Neo.NEt wrote:
This is by far one of my happiest starcraft 2 moments... watching one of my favorite players destroy one of the top protosses and then coming in here and seeing all of the protosses wipe each others tears off..... now you know what it felt like to play zerg for the last 8 or so months.



What do you mean, "Now you know what it felt like". The problem was their were to many scrub Zerg's like yourself just copying other builds, because of this their were no builds created, instead everyone just doing the same old roach hydra.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4426
On June 06 2011 02:02 AncientSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:00 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:59 Whalecore wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 Benjef wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:51 Jochan wrote:
I love the fact that Naniwa is not trying to do some all-in/cheesy moves. He is playing straight up macro games

he is showing why if you don't chese or do a timing atack (all in) you just lose vs zerg

I kind of agree. It shows Protoss can't win in a straight up macro game. You need to harass, you cannot let Zerg macro like that.

No it shows that Naniwa fell behind significantly in economy and paid the price...

What do you suggest Naniwa doing? Taking a 3rd so he dies even earlier?

Perhaps doing something during the time Losira is making 1231231 drones ?? You can safely get a third up around the same time as a zerg if he just sits there and masses drones like losira is doing.

Yeah, if he mases drones, but what if he is massing an army ? How can you know what he is doing ?

Allucination.
Gnomtastisch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany50 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4427
On June 06 2011 02:00 Spitmode wrote:
when is idra vs mma?


Probably next?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4428
On June 06 2011 02:03 Logo2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base

If thats all you saw in that game, then you dont know much about sc2

LoL agreed, if you watch the match and see speedling roach and think you can do the same why aren't you grandmaster top 10? He clearly has no concept of agression or timings or unit selection or macro or map control or mind games or anything really.


WHY AM I NOT GRANDMASTER TOP TEN??
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4429
On June 06 2011 02:03 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:00 youngminii wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:59 Pandain wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base

A move? He was microing all that time. He did dual attacks, kept on microing everything during that time.

He just did a crazy strategy that involved 3 base drone pumping into just a bunch of roach lings. I mean, he had 4 hatcheries BEFORE he had his lair. How crazy is that!

During the entire time he was attacking he kept macroing, and reinforcements just kept on swarming in. His entire strategy was beautiful.

It really wasn't. I'm not gonna detract from Losira here because he DID completely outplay Naniwa, but his play was anything but beautiful.

Idra against MC was beautiful. This was standard.


4 bases before lair is standard? GTFO

By standard I mean not anything special.

Yes, that's right, I'm saying 4 bases before Lair wasn't really that special.
lalala
Krosta
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway437 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4430
On June 06 2011 02:03 ScDeluX wrote:
I'd love to see Nani vs Idra in the finals, would be epic


I would love to have at least one korean in the final
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:07:10
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4431
On June 06 2011 01:57 TheKefka wrote:
Why are people so impressed by Losira?All he did was drone up and than a-move his roaches....
And ran speedlings into naniwas base


Maybe you should try that against him.

He made a read on naniwa, and decided to take the risk of staying low tier, taking early third, massing drones.

That is a HUGE risk (in fact any one of those is enough to kill you in a standard game) to take if he isnt confident in his read of his opponent.

Get out of bronze before you comment on any player.
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4432
On June 06 2011 02:00 Brainiac wrote:
Seems like every PvZ looks the same nowadays. Everything seems equal at around 100 supply mark, but then Zerg just explodes and gains like 70 supply lead. I dunno what to think about this, seen many games unfolding like that (idra vs mc, losira vs nani etc.). Seems like even perfect forcefields can't save toss players.


2-base timing attacks are the only thing that works. Usually you would just pressure but then the Zerg just runs Roaches and Lings into your natural, so you might as well go allin.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4433
On June 06 2011 02:03 Titorelli wrote:
What's up with all that Gretorp hate? Has he done anything bad or what?

Most people just think that there are players that deserve his spot in the pool play way, way, way more.
I must say that I'm one of them, if you see for example DeMusliM deserves to get that spot more, or someone like Axslav, MajOr etc.
It appears I have been chosen.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4434
On June 06 2011 02:03 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:02 JAN0L wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:59 Deadlyfish wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
American Ads are so weird and boring...



No? Get real.

No really i love them.


even Xperia Play?

Fuck no, that ad is so stupidly irritating, it makes me want to shoot my screen everytime again :>.
I don't understand how you Americans can live with that on the TV xD.
Especially since you watch so much TV haha .


Trust me, the ads...they become a part of you, and you can never live without them again..
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4435
On June 06 2011 02:01 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:58 ZeromuS wrote:
As a protoss all I can say IDK what to do anymore Im gonna stop laddering until this thing is figured out lol Zergs Congratulations you win. You have solved protoss for now just try not get complacent or we will continue to see this 75/25 PvZ flip flop lol I dont think there is a single matchup that shifts so much back and forth so violently as this one :p



Rofl, honestly how dumb are you guys. Stop complaining because the no.1/no.2 ZvPer in the world beat a top foreigner protoss...


Ya really... people tend to forget this is LOSIRA playing, he doesn't represent the whole ladder...

Play more, complain less, and don't base the entire state of SC2 off of one result / tournament...

I agree this isn't the time or place to complain. But you have to admit that it isn't just Losira who has figured out the ZvP matchup.
ilikeLIONZ
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany427 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4436
what were Nanis mistakes on the shakuras game? pls give me insight someone!
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4437
On June 06 2011 02:02 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:59 imareaver3 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:57 Finrod1 wrote:
Sad. Broodwar memories all over the place. Seems like the time were foreigners could compete with koreans are finally over, again.



Foreigners can still compete with Koreans, but the very best Koreans (Second-best Korean Zerg) are still better than the very best foreigners.


It isn't to the point where top foreigners can't even compete with b-team and practice partner Korean's but it looks to be slowly getting there.

Foreigners need to recognize they are slowing falling behind, and the mindset of "I'll practice just enough to beat the players in my region" won't cut it when they participate in international tournaments.



I'd say its getting better. Our resident low-ranked Korean (Moon) trashed every foreigner at IEM, but is getting beaten by random foreigners this weekend.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4438
On June 06 2011 02:04 Radical wrote:
Wait who was Sheth's game against? Was is Cruncher or Fenix?

Fenix
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4439
On June 06 2011 02:02 tooPrime wrote:
Important news friends, after seeing that Bing commercial countless times both on user Streams and at this MLG, I just realized that the band at the beginning is the same group of people that go to the spa, hence that is why the girl who received the fedora at the concert finds the band in robes so amusing. Repetition does work, and that commercial has lodged itself into by brain unfortunately. Go Idra.

WE CAN'T BE DEFEEEAATEEDDDDD!!!
d=(^_^)z
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#4440
On June 06 2011 02:02 elmizzt wrote:
The only thing missing from MLG is KPOP!!!!!


YES
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