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rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3881
On June 06 2011 01:44 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:42 Iamyournoob wrote:
hmm, makes me wonder how much airplay by protoss is viable... MC lost to Idra cause it did not do enough damage and I kinda feel it was the same in this case. What do you guys think that lost Naniwa the game? I mean, he played pretty well overall.


That VR with those phoenix were the only reason that game reached early-late game. He lost because he didn't tech to storms.


no, in the end of the airplay, losira was a saturated base ahead... and just rolled over naniwa.
badog
rainbowbear
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark25 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3882
Stream has been perfect for me all weekend and now, championship sunday, it starts going down the drain :S Even the low quality stream is unwatchable as it buffers in every engagement.

Hoping they get it fixed before the grand finals at least!
Cadaver!!
Profile Joined December 2010
Hungary390 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3883
On June 06 2011 01:47 Bortlett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:45 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:44 bennyaus wrote:
"That was so beautious" - Artosis on Naniwa's build and early forcefield usage.


learned a new word today

its spelled beauteous btw


lol you know this is a word that didn't exist, somebody famous said it when drunk, and then said "fuck, that's a new word, get mirriam and webster on the phone!"

But if it makes it to Webster, doesn't it make it a word?
I have a folder labeled day9_dailies where I store my horseporn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3884
Why do we have the same game on 2 streams while other epic matches are going on? I'm baffled. Wheat and Day on a break maybe?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3885
I think the big mistake of naniwa was revealing the voidray. It could've done more damage if it had gone undetected, losira still had to build a evo chamber when he first saw it. OFC LosirA is the son of god and would've won anyway
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3886
On June 06 2011 01:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:47 unindel wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee/status/77409244391030786 haha exciting mainstage matches can be distracting


Oh Gretorp :B

Hahahahaha, that is amazing. Gotta love Awesome Andre
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#3887
On June 06 2011 01:48 DoubleB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:47 Koshi wrote:
CLR5 21. Fenix (t) wins G1 vs 15. Sheth (z) on Metalopolis. Fenix 1-0. #MLG


Noooo, I hope Sheth gets a GREAT comeback. : (


He will. Sheth is too good at TvZ
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3888
On June 06 2011 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two will be starting soon on Shukuras plateau


Game Two is starting now

Losira is 1-0 up in the series


Game Two has started

Naniwa is positioned at the Top left

While in the bottom right located is Losira


0:50

Pylon at naniwa's natural


2:00

Pool then gas for Losira


2:30

Nexus first for Naniwa


3:30

Forge then cannon for Naniwa
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3889
On June 06 2011 01:47 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:46 Plexa wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:45 Koshi wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:44 R3N wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:43 rpgalon wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:41 jazzyjazz wrote:
yes losira, EAT EMMMMM! Naniwa should have got HT's, would have turned the tide.

no, losira would just press another button and build roaches instead, and roll the same way


roaches also get trashed by storms.

Upgrades burrow roaches really wont die to storms.

Yeah, but thats why you have immortals. Naniwa wanted to transition into stalker/immortal/templar but he just lacked the tech

stalker/immortal/templar is actually so good, I dunno why more protosses don't do that... colossus stalker balls are getting more and more figured out

There are a lot of timings which leave you vulnerable, you can do it but you can't go straight there or you die - need dts or colo as a stepping stone. Colossus is good since it forces so many corruptors, but just gotta nail that tech switch or you look stupid
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3890
On June 06 2011 01:47 MechKing wrote:
Fenix is owning it up, wtf.


Is that a surprise? He's a very good player, and Sheth's ZvT is his worst match up too.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3891
On June 06 2011 01:47 Neo.NEt wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to name three protosses in the world better than Naniwa without naming MC three times


1. MC 2. Alicia 3. XiaoT, however I think Naniwa could easily be all the way up to top 2 when he plays his best of course. So no doubt is he one of the best, and the best protoss foreigner.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3892
On June 06 2011 01:48 jHERO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:47 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:44 Neo.NEt wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:43 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:42 Neo.NEt wrote:
Losira has the best or second best ZvP in the world so dont be shocked when Naniwa (who is easily one of the top 3 protosses in the world in my opinion) gets owned again



Nani is a not a top 3 protoss in the world...


So you've got MC at number 1 obviously and then....???? Pretty sure MC is here and he's lower than Naniwa is at the moment... hard to argue otherwise in my opinion. What has any Korean protoss other than MC ever done?



Yeah, lets base one tournament where MC had twice as dificult a group...

Alicia is better. Genius is probably mechanically stronger. You could even make cases for Hongun, Killer etc

Stop overhyping Naniwa. He's the best foreigner protoss, but he's yet to seriously contend with top Koreans


tastetosis are the main source of hype for naniwa
lol

nah

naniwa's probably top 3
lalala
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3893
On June 06 2011 01:45 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:44 sleepingdog wrote:
Losira got a huge advantage by getting the third up uncontested - when the voidray arrived there was already a spore crawler up, you don't want that as toss.

Amazing decisionmaking.

Mmmmm somewhat disagree. Naniwa did great up until not having the tech necessary to switch out of colossus. really needed twlight tech (templar/upgrades etc)


You disagreeing with me makes me a sad panda

Anyways, yes he got blink too late (didn't have it in first engagement vs ling/hydra which cost him a lot) and obviously he needed templars. Nevertheless at some point it was 140 vs 200...and even though zerg can/should be ahead supply-wise that's a real lot. Once zerg gets his 3 hatches early he can literally produce drones faster than you can kill them with your small airforce. Didn't really matter all that much that Nani microed great.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3894
On June 06 2011 01:48 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:47 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:44 Neo.NEt wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:43 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:42 Neo.NEt wrote:
Losira has the best or second best ZvP in the world so dont be shocked when Naniwa (who is easily one of the top 3 protosses in the world in my opinion) gets owned again



Nani is a not a top 3 protoss in the world...


So you've got MC at number 1 obviously and then....???? Pretty sure MC is here and he's lower than Naniwa is at the moment... hard to argue otherwise in my opinion. What has any Korean protoss other than MC ever done?



Yeah, lets base one tournament where MC had twice as dificult a group...

Alicia is better. Genius is probably mechanically stronger. You could even make cases for Hongun, Killer etc

Stop overhyping Naniwa. He's the best foreigner protoss, but he's yet to seriously contend with top Koreans


I think he is competing quite well. Losira had to fight for the game.



I'm not saying he's not, but I find it ridiculous people are complaining that the 2nd best ZvPer in the world is beating a very good, but not top 5 protoss in the world
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3895
Stream started to freeze and HQ stream doesn't work at all ><
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3896
thorzain mc incoming
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3897
On June 06 2011 01:49 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:48 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two will be starting soon on Shukuras plateau


Game Two is starting now

Losira is 1-0 up in the series


Game Two has started

Naniwa is positioned at the Top left

While in the bottom right located is Losira


0:50

Pylon at naniwa's natural


2:00

Pool then gas for Losira


2:30

Nexus first for Naniwa


3:30

Forge then cannon for Naniwa


4:00

Naniwa is getting speed and a hatchery
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3898
oh nice, MC ThorZain rematch!!!
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3899
On June 06 2011 01:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 01:48 DoubleB wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:47 Koshi wrote:
CLR5 21. Fenix (t) wins G1 vs 15. Sheth (z) on Metalopolis. Fenix 1-0. #MLG


Noooo, I hope Sheth gets a GREAT comeback. : (


He will. Sheth is too good at TvZ


Sheths zvt is bad
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
June 05 2011 16:49 GMT
#3900
On June 06 2011 01:48 Azarkon wrote:
Naniwa has always favored this gateway heavy style versus the tech heavy style of other Protosses. It's biting him in the ass right now as you can't have a gateway only army at that stage of the game. The fight that lost him the game was the one in the middle where Losira traded zerglings and roaches for a bunch of colossi. You cannot lose your AoE damage and then expect to come back without getting more. Especially if you haven't done damage to the Zerg economy as Naniwa mostly did not.


Lol you can't do damage to zerg economy besides voidray/phoenix or DT, if you move out to attack a base its basically an all-in commitment of your army and if it dies you are screwed. And if you kill 10 drones like Naniwa did, still doesn't matter when the zerg has 80 drones because he has 4-5 bases of larva to make them again in a second.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
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