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On June 06 2011 01:44 Neo.NEt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:43 1Eris1 wrote:On June 06 2011 01:42 Neo.NEt wrote:
Losira has the best or second best ZvP in the world so dont be shocked when Naniwa (who is easily one of the top 3 protosses in the world in my opinion) gets owned again Nani is a not a top 3 protoss in the world... So you've got MC at number 1 obviously and then....???? Pretty sure MC is here and he's lower than Naniwa is at the moment... hard to argue otherwise in my opinion. What has any Korean protoss other than MC ever done?
Yeah, lets base one tournament where MC had twice as dificult a group...
Alicia is better. Genius is probably mechanically stronger. You could even make cases for Hongun, Killer etc
Stop overhyping Naniwa. He's the best foreigner protoss, but he's yet to seriously contend with top Koreans
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On June 06 2011 01:45 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:44 sleepingdog wrote:
Losira got a huge advantage by getting the third up uncontested - when the voidray arrived there was already a spore crawler up, you don't want that as toss.
Amazing decisionmaking. Mmmmm somewhat disagree. Naniwa did great up until not having the tech necessary to switch out of colossus.  really needed twlight tech (templar/upgrades etc)
imo you cant push out at 170 supply with the army you've built up from the start(too few gas units), he has to turtle to 200/200 with more colossi, blink sooner and HT ready.
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Seriously, the random freezes on the stream ruins so much of the viewing experience.
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naniwa shouldn't ove rely on collousses.
swtich to ht+collosses+gateway which is the almost undefeated army for zerg!!!!!!!
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naniwa should've switched over to HT tech right after his collusus were all killed by the corruptors, theres just no way to build up collusus at that point
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On June 06 2011 01:44 9001 wrote:
I feel that if Naniwa went for templar tech he could have won that. But still, Losira droned up like a mad man.
yeah if he had prepared templar it would've been much better. he just didn't seem to have a follow up.took his gases a bit late too, late blink, late upgrades etcetc.
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On June 06 2011 01:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:44 R3N wrote:On June 06 2011 01:43 rpgalon wrote:On June 06 2011 01:41 jazzyjazz wrote:
yes losira, EAT EMMMMM! Naniwa should have got HT's, would have turned the tide. no, losira would just press another button and build roaches instead, and roll the same way roaches also get trashed by storms. Upgrades burrow roaches really wont die to storms.
1 observer and burrow is useless then they die to storms wtf...
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CLR5 21. Fenix (t) wins G1 vs 15. Sheth (z) on Metalopolis. Fenix 1-0. #MLG
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On June 06 2011 01:46 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:45 Koshi wrote:On June 06 2011 01:44 R3N wrote:On June 06 2011 01:43 rpgalon wrote:On June 06 2011 01:41 jazzyjazz wrote:
yes losira, EAT EMMMMM! Naniwa should have got HT's, would have turned the tide. no, losira would just press another button and build roaches instead, and roll the same way roaches also get trashed by storms. Upgrades burrow roaches really wont die to storms. Yeah, but thats why you have immortals. Naniwa wanted to transition into stalker/immortal/templar but he just lacked the tech
stalker/immortal/templar is actually so good, I dunno why more protosses don't do that... colossus stalker balls are getting more and more figured out
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On June 06 2011 01:46 Sixes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:44 ScDeluX wrote:
I don't see how Nani could have done better. Chargelots or ht would have done better. The fact is upgraded chargelots do amazingly against hydras and lings as do storms (and maybe even archons). What you don't want are stalkers. We will probably soon see people try something than colossus or at least have a backup plan for when corruptors invariably show up.
umm
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On June 06 2011 01:45 hadang wrote:the stream skips around so much
It's way better then the last MLG 
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Protoss should naturally tech to templars at the latest when they get 3 bases Nani was on 4, so he should have had templar /w storm out. Theres really nothing storm is bad against except Ultras
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On June 06 2011 01:46 radiantshadow92 wrote:
CLR5 23. Thorzain (t) wins G2 and match vs 13. Machine (z) on Shakuras. Thorzain wins 2-0, will face Ogsmc in R6
Ooh, looks like MC should be able to make it to his next round with July (probably), given his previous wins. Can't wait for this GSL rematch heh heh.
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great game!
but... i dont wanna whine about balance, just... an observation:
protoss takes a big risk going 1gate nexus to get an economical advantage. zerg responds by building alot of zerglings (not drones!). zerglings does absolutely NO damage and almost all gets killedf. Toss goes air, wich zerg is totally unprepared for, and does alot of damage with only a few stargate units.
All this all amounts to: ZERG BEING AHEAD.......
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On June 06 2011 01:46 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:44 ellirc wrote:On June 06 2011 01:43 Devolved wrote:
When were all those other games of the championship bracket played? Last night after the stream was over? What are you talking about? Like Thorzain vs. Select, etc...
Rounds 1 & 2 were last night, 3 & 4 this morning. (Thorzain/Select was broadcast).
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CLR5 21. Fenix (t) wins G1 vs 15. Sheth (z) on Metalopolis. Fenix 1-0. #MLG
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I guess our Korean Kratoss is protoss last hope now, and likewise MMA for terran.
Zerg swarmstyle everywhere, luickly they can take out each other in ZvZ 
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I'm still waiting for someone to name three protosses in the world better than Naniwa without naming MC three times
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On June 06 2011 01:46 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 01:45 Koshi wrote:On June 06 2011 01:44 R3N wrote:On June 06 2011 01:43 rpgalon wrote:On June 06 2011 01:41 jazzyjazz wrote:
yes losira, EAT EMMMMM! Naniwa should have got HT's, would have turned the tide. no, losira would just press another button and build roaches instead, and roll the same way roaches also get trashed by storms. Upgrades burrow roaches really wont die to storms. Yeah, but thats why you have immortals. Naniwa wanted to transition into stalker/immortal/templar but he just lacked the tech
Yea, I'm sure he will be the first person to say he could have done better. Was so slick until that point. Shows how good naniwa is.
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