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YESSSSS MC WHAT A HOLD OMFGGGGGGGGGGG
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Australia8532 Posts
MC.. i will never doubt you again :p
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Wow this is actually amazing defense by mc.
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Canada13414 Posts
HOLY CRAP MC HELD IT! I know no all caps but WOW
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jesus MC is so good! i cant believe it
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MC so fucking good, MIRACLE DEFENSE!!!!
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losing or not MC defending this is so godlike.....
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DAMN THAT DEFENCE MULTITASK!!!!!
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holy fuck
how dare i doubt MC?
GOD
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On June 06 2011 08:20 ZeromuS wrote:MC is so dead :/ 
kekekekee wut?
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pretty good crisis management from mc
sorry i meant VERY
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United States23455 Posts
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On June 06 2011 08:20 Svartstol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 08:16 SenorChang wrote:On June 06 2011 08:13 BrahCJ wrote:On June 06 2011 08:05 ellirc wrote:On June 06 2011 08:02 BrahCJ wrote:On June 06 2011 07:52 Heavenly wrote:On June 06 2011 07:48 BrahCJ wrote:On June 06 2011 07:42 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 06 2011 07:38 BrahCJ wrote:On June 06 2011 07:24 MrProb wrote:[quote] +1 not inviting the best just so u can win??, those are the attitude of losers  I understand and agree with your sentiment. Only the best players should win the best tourney. Which is where the GSL comes in, with a top prize of about $87000. You need to CULTIVATE roots-level first. I might have won my leagues premiership last year, but I don't feel the Spainish international team should have been flown over at the leagues expense, to find out who the best is. And also, if you want "TEH MASSES!!!" to tune in, you need someone who you deem to be on an obtainable level, and for the 15 year olds just tuning in who may or may not be "The Next Jinro," it is VERY hard for that kid to aspire to be a pro when Koreans are winning whatever they enter. I'm not saying "BAN KOREANS!" I'm saying, if Koreans want to participate in a chance to win $5000 in 3 days, let them pay for travel expenses, and fight for their seed points, just like Americans have to do in the GSL, and just like Americans have to do with the MLG. I'm asking for no privledges. Equality. If anything foreigners are getting the better treatment. The GOM/MLG deal gives MLG winners auto-seeds into Code A/S (don't remember the exact details right at the moment), and both of those tournaments are far, far more competitive and difficult to perform in (or even get into) than MLG. GOM is doing the exact same thing for foreigners so you don't have a whole lot to complain about. Except for the part where the foreigners are gone for ONE MONTH. For one whole month they can't compete in any "westerner" tourneys/showmatches without lagging around everywhere. Where with the MLG, the Koreans are "out of action" for THREE DAYS, and even for those 3 days, the GSL stops, so they're not losing any other potential income. Which is why you've seen the best Koreans out there in July, MC, Losira, and MMA accept, where the best foreigners have already said "No I will not take the Code A ticket, to leave for 30 days." Even more so, when 4th place MLG attracts the same amount of prize money as first place Code A. So we have... 10 times the length, losing tourneys, for 1/3rd of the cash. Foreigners are getting 30 times less potential money per day, and they're getting treated better? Yes, they are getting treated better. As you can see the Korean scene is far better. A month of training in Korea is MUCH better than winning a couple $100 tournaments every week even if you don't perform well in Code A. And not being able to perform in Code A is NOTHING BUT THE FOREIGNER'S FAULT. sorry for GOMTV expecting the 6.5 billion other people in the world outside of Korea to produce at least one competitive foreigner. which I hope is Naniwa, and I hope he gets accepted into the ogs house somehow. The koreans have had 20 years of being on Korea.... You expect Naniwa to take a Code A spot, be there for a month, then join the Koreans on their level?..... In order to LIVE in Korea like Jinro and HuK do, you NEED money. Whats the way a SC2 player gets money? Sponsors, and tourneys. Liquid has good enough sponsors to afford it, as so does FXO. The majority (regardless of skill) simply cant afford it. At this rate, we won't see Nani/Thorzain at the next MLG. Then, over time, you will see Americans lose interest in playing professionally too, because the only things they can win are the $100 show matches each week. Then, the crowds will leave. The die hards (like yourself and I) will still keep an eye on GomTV, but NA will lose depth. Don't kid yourself. The same thing happened in SC1. Why would SC2 go any different with the same direction? You have no clue. Just the mere fact that a few pro gamers have a house in Sweden should indicate that THIS IS NOT BW. Why are you so depressed? I'm not depressed, I'm concerend. Read my first post and you will see why. A couple of pro houses in Europe, and a couple in NA mean that the entire westerner scene is safe-as-"houses" ? I disagree. These houses cost MONEY. As the prize money increases, and we attract more attention from the Koreans, NA players will find it harder to win, and thus harder to pay rent. Then the houses are gone. I don't know why people don't understand the economics of the situation at hand. If you want SC2 to be for the elite only, expect it to go the way of BW. Oh well.... At least we might learn the lesson for SC3, in 2034 You do realise that the majority of earnings for an SC2 player (unless you are MC or nestea) is not from tournament winnings but from streaming / coaching / salary from team + sponsorships. you seem misinformed, players don't need to win prize money to pay their rents lol And this is the main issue, is it not? Too much side business and not enough practise.
yea and that does really counter his argument as it is just the effort put in and the rewards are not being reaped (because of the lack of effort)
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