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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402) |
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TLO vs QXC? YES!!!!
Scan the island my friend
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On June 05 2011 11:24 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:22 DamageControL wrote:On June 05 2011 11:22 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:19 DamageControL wrote:On June 05 2011 11:16 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 setzer wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. 21-3 is quite dominant ignoring the lower tier koreans in MLG that went 0-5 I see. Did you miss the entire page of posts explaining why your original post was really stupid? Did you miss my point that your understanding of nationality is really stupid, do you really think QXC is spanish now or Demuslim German or TLO swedish you dont change nationality because you live in another country for a few months/years. I just dont see why you need to overegg the stats they are still impressive even if you include Moonan and Select. Did you miss the 50 people who explained that this isn't about nationality? -__-;; How is counting the stats of KOREAN players not about nationality...I have no words anymore.
Just ignore this Vimsey guy... he's pretty entrenched in his position.
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Canada627 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:23 Malgrif wrote:
i really can't believe that a tournament of this caliber, that has produced some of the most amazing games i've seen yet, first prize is only 5000 dollars and a seed into code S. lol i would have thought at least 10k seemed pretty standard for big name tournies
The championship in novemeber is 50k for first.
the tournies before then get you points, which are a huge advantage in the upcomming tournaments.
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IMO Slush losing is good, this means losira vs naniwa!
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United States23455 Posts
Naniwa/Losira
Idra/MMA
Tomorrow at 9:00 AM PST/Noon EST
Going to be great match-ups. Could see both Koreans losing, but also could see them smashing Idra/Naniwa 2-0.
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On June 05 2011 11:22 ApexPredador wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:15 DonaldLee wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of them play in Korea. This isn't a race/nationality thing, it's about the competitiveness of each scene. Then how come when ever someone brings up good NA players, they discount Select because he is Korean?
UGH.
They don't "discount" Select. They either don't think Select is top tier or forget about him. And most people DO count Select as one of the best in NA.
Wow...some people...lol
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On June 05 2011 11:23 kheldorin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:18 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:15 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of those play in the Korean scene. They're North American players. So by that logic TLO is now swedish, QXC is now spanish, Huk is now Korean and Demuslim is now German amoung others. US loose understanding of nationality is a bit strange. Not talking about nationalities. Talking about the scene. They don't play in the GSL and they don't play in the Korean server. They don't have the same practice culture, gaming house etc..etc..
So Idra/Haypro are half Koreans then? If HuK and Jinro comes to the next MLG are they Koreans?
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lmao "nice rax" sign.
great
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NICE RAX sign now my favorite LOL
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when does the matches start tommorow east time?
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On June 05 2011 11:22 ApexPredador wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:15 DonaldLee wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of them play in Korea. This isn't a race/nationality thing, it's about the competitiveness of each scene. Then how come when ever someone brings up good NA players, they discount Select because he is Korean?
because TL disagrees about everything so you could always come back with that sort of retort? some people still think that moon was the person behind "koreans own white dudes" for crissakes
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On June 05 2011 11:22 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:19 SEANSYE wrote:On June 05 2011 11:18 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:10 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:On June 05 2011 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; Quit making excuses for Koreans. Freaking hate this. First its the server lags from cross country, then MLG decides to fly Koreans over for LAN, BUT NOOOOO That's not good enough for you. Now they have jet lag. Freaking deal with it. Top foreigners can easily take out Koreans, they aren't fucking Gods. Excuses? Koreans have destroyed foreigners so far. Yeah, you're including the wins of the tier 2 Foreigners, maybe if Gomtv sent over tier 2 koreans, we can start talking about wins and shit. But as far as I'm concerned the Top top foreigners are doing REALLY REALLY well against the Top foreigners, stop trying to feign Korean dominance when there isn't any. Who are the top top foreigners? The pool of top top foreigners seems to change everytime a Korean crushes one of them. Literally the only victory a top foreigner has over a Korean (minus the substandard Moon) is MC/Idra. Compare that with Losira over Incontrol, July over Sjow, MMA over Sjow, MC over Tyler, MC over Select, MC over Thorzain, Losira over TLO, MMA over Kiwikaka, July over Kiwikaki and I really fail to see how 'top foreigners' have competed well at all. This is the part where you pretend players like Select and Kiwikaki are not top foreigners so go ahead. I think most people agree top foreigners are like Thorzain, Naniwa, IdrA, Morrow, White-Ra, Dimaga, Huk, and couple other players. Select and Kiwikaki have had way more success than Morrow and Dimaga. Sjow has one of the largest earnings outside Korea, those three are clearly top foreigners as is Ret who won Assembly.
I am not so sure they have... I think all 4 of those players have posted great results.
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On June 05 2011 11:23 qazadex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:20 DamageControL wrote:On June 05 2011 11:18 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:15 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of those play in the Korean scene. They're North American players. So by that logic TLO is now swedish, QXC is now spanish, Huk is now Korean and Demuslim is now German amoung others. US loose understanding of nationality is a bit strange. This isn't about nationality. This is about competing systems. Are you serious? This obviously is about nationality, otherwise why would we call them Koreans? How the hell does that not insinuate nationality?
It isn't about nationality. More about on which ladder you play and which metagame you are used to.
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On June 05 2011 11:24 Jyvblamo wrote:
Looks like a 3-way tie in group A?
Moon < Slush < Fenix < Moon
Am I mistaken?
Slush takes 2nd place through W/L in those sets, Moon 3rd and Fenix 4th.
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On June 05 2011 11:23 qazadex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:20 DamageControL wrote:On June 05 2011 11:18 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:15 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of those play in the Korean scene. They're North American players. So by that logic TLO is now swedish, QXC is now spanish, Huk is now Korean and Demuslim is now German amoung others. US loose understanding of nationality is a bit strange. This isn't about nationality. This is about competing systems. Are you serious? This obviously is about nationality, otherwise why would we call them Koreans? How the hell does that not insinuate nationality? ....seriously? Becuase it's a convenient term for their system. NA players are lumped together and so are Europeans.
edit: yes based on ladder systems and metagames and tournament scene as someone above me pointed out
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I don't think people like Polt Prime would dominate MLG
Polt is 4-0 against MC... any Foreigner with that Record against MC?
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How will they determine Naniwa's bracket seeding? Three of the players are tied and are pretty much A>B>C>A....
nvm, question answered
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On June 05 2011 11:21 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 11:20 PieLieDie wrote:On June 05 2011 11:18 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:15 Fionn wrote:On June 05 2011 11:13 Vimsey wrote:On June 05 2011 11:02 ffadicted wrote:
So at the end of championship pool play, final tally on Korea vs. The World (I've been keeping track since the start)
Moon: 3 - 2
MMA: 5 - 0
July: 4 - 0 (his loss was to a korean)
MC: 4 - 1
Losira: 5 - 0
Koreans: 21 - 3
If you take into account that Moon isn't even good enough for Code A, and that MC said he was extremely jet lagged against grack, I think we can end the argument here. The gap IS huge.
Korea FIGHTIN!! ^^; ok annoying me now. I like how people are only counting the GSL invited koreans. Moonan went 0-5 and Select went 0-5. Neither of those play in the Korean scene. They're North American players. So by that logic TLO is now swedish, QXC is now spanish, Huk is now Korean and Demuslim is now German amoung others. Your stupidity is painful... lol don't talk to him. i tried to explain but he seems pretty fixed on what he believes.
He has a point tbf, doesn't really mean anything but one nevertheless.
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