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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2341
Quit whining about balance. Thorzain's control was a lot better than Shadow's, not because Shadow's was bad, but because Thorzain's was great. Put a mediocre terran in control of Thorzain's army in that big fight (the one where Shadow lost all his colossi and Thorzain lost nothing) and you'd have a much closer outcome.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2342
On June 05 2011 02:14 Fonsie wrote:
Question: What did Shadow wrong in this game? I have the some problems against good terrans too... if they do that timingpush with mass vikings, your Colossi get vaporized soooo fast and your gate units dont stand a chance against the marauder medivac army. There is no way to get HTs either... and Shadow already had good upgrades and Chargelots.... so dunno ;/ i hate this timingpush


Nothing much, it was a standard engagement where he just got out-microed
Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2343
man i cant get the stream working... is there a restream or what the hell im supposed to do ? hell why even buying hd....
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2344
Stream dead, anyone ellse ?
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2345
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
July takes a 1-0 lead over Agh in OWR6. #MLG
I'm getting the derection.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3517 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2346
July up 1-0!
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2347
On June 05 2011 02:16 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:15 partisan wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:14 Fonsie wrote:
Question: What did Shadow wrong in this game? I have the some problems against good terrans too... if they do that timingpush with mass vikings, your Colossi get vaporized soooo fast and your gate units dont stand a chance against the marauder medivac army. There is no way to get HTs either... and Shadow already had good upgrades and Chargelots.... so dunno ;/ i hate this timingpush



He was out controlled. The idea is to get your colossi on his bio and your stalkers on his vikings, the opposite happened.

That's not possible on a map like shakuras, they can stim and run while they're vikings kill you colossi then your gateway army does nothing.


FF behind his bio?

You can do stuff after you A Moved, just hold the zealots back.
Krede
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark139 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2348
On June 05 2011 02:14 Fonsie wrote:
Question: What did Shadow wrong in this game? I have the some problems against good terrans too... if they do that timingpush with mass vikings, your Colossi get vaporized soooo fast and your gate units dont stand a chance against the marauder medivac army. There is no way to get HTs either... and Shadow already had good upgrades and Chargelots.... so dunno ;/ i hate this timingpush


Well it comes down to control and positioning, try looking at your engagements and see if you could have done something better. Also if a terran commits that much to vikings, stop colossus production and start ht's and dt's for harassment (if you've got the economy).
Here's the thing about bowling: There's not enough maps. There's two maps on bowling. Bumper Map and Dust_2
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
June 04 2011 17:17 GMT
#2349
I dont get how people can complain imba when the (no offense Shadow played far beyond my expectations) clearly better player won (except for that greedy build in game 2 by TZ). Its like complaining that zerg is imbalanced just because MorroW hardcore outplays SloG, ohwait
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2350
Does july ever play a macro game? Every game I've seen of him involves some kind of rush.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2351
There is really no point rushing to colossi if you're not going to pressure with them. Letting the terran mass up vikings unmolested is asking for trouble.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
AgentZero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2352
On June 05 2011 02:16 Niruz wrote:
Are both the streams black currently or is it just me?


It's happening for me as well. I see the commercial then a black screen on both streams.
Fonsie
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany54 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2353
On June 05 2011 02:15 partisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:14 Fonsie wrote:
Question: What did Shadow wrong in this game? I have the some problems against good terrans too... if they do that timingpush with mass vikings, your Colossi get vaporized soooo fast and your gate units dont stand a chance against the marauder medivac army. There is no way to get HTs either... and Shadow already had good upgrades and Chargelots.... so dunno ;/ i hate this timingpush



He was out controlled. The idea is to get your colossi on his bio and your stalkers on his vikings, the opposite happened.


You will always get outcontrolled as Protoss against Terran, because you dont have the same micro possibilities like Terran has. Vikings will always outrange your stalker while Marauders will kite the shit out of the Zealots.

So thats not the answer... i guess the only possibility is getting time with DTs or something... u cannot win against that Mass Vikings Marauder Medivac Army with ur Colossi + Gate combination in this state of the game
Ancient.sc
Profile Joined June 2011
61 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2354
July - Agh 1-0
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2355
Stream dead -_-

NOT AGAIN
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2356
mh....yesterday the stream seemed to be much better stability wise, its working for a while and i get black screen then or sound goes away and i ve to refresh stream to make it work again :3
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2357
On June 05 2011 02:17 mistgun_EU wrote:
Stream dead, anyone ellse ?


Yes, a big black hole.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2358
thorzain just completely out classed him.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2359
"July makes a brilliant defense against Agh's 4gate to remain undefeated. Game 2 is underway now"

goo july
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
June 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#2360
On June 05 2011 02:16 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:13 SSLPrism wrote:Not enough gas off 2base if you're gonna get colossus, need a 3rd which thorzain would not let him secure.


True. I dunno, it just feels like Shadow's strat that game has been completely solved in TvP these days. Thorzain knew exactly what he was trying to do and got the critical viking total to just wipe those colossus out again and again. Thousands of gas wasted on those colossus.

I would have liked to see Shadow somehow scout that army sooner and switch it up.


He scouted the 2nd reactor starport while it was going up. Response? More 1-robo colossus.

tt yo
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