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Recordings of todays games are playing on http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red and http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Blue - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229478&currentpage=389#7772 for how to skip to games
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 04 2011 07:27 GMT
#7721
man a lot can be said of MLG. Great tourney and good livestream but what the hell:

- are they vods and where are they? Not easy to find them at all?
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 04 2011 07:27 GMT
#7722
On June 04 2011 16:25 dc302 wrote:
Are people forgetting that part of the reason why Zergs are 'dominating' right now may be because its Losira, Moon and Idra playing? As in, it's more to do with the players themselves, rather than the race imho.


Then maybe we can also call the protoss domainance was due to the player MC playing Iinstead of forcefield?
WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
June 04 2011 07:27 GMT
#7723
I am also wondering if there are vods.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 07:29:31
June 04 2011 07:28 GMT
#7724
On June 04 2011 16:25 dc302 wrote:
Are people forgetting that part of the reason why Zergs are 'dominating' right now may be because its Losira, Moon and Idra playing? As in, it's more to do with the players themselves, rather than the race imho.

Sorry but that's a crap argument ... by implication are you saying that there are no talented players playing other races

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red/ game 2 of idra vs MC coming up

The reason protoss are losing against zerg at the moment is that they are all being outmacroed really really badly.
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 07:30:25
June 04 2011 07:28 GMT
#7725
On June 04 2011 16:27 papaz wrote:
man a lot can be said of MLG. Great tourney and good livestream but what the hell:

- are they vods and where are they? Not easy to find them at all?


No, not for a while, the replays though at in the brackets. they're currently doing a restream of todays stuff, but it's a recording, so it's at different positions for everyone and you can't skip through it.

Which is on:

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Blue

(blue takes like 30 minutes to get to tastosis and another 30 to get into their match)
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 04 2011 07:28 GMT
#7726
Oh my god, there are just so many fucking amazing players, I honestly couldn't even tell you the top 8 that are gonna come out of this. Idra is looking incredibly strong, but MC made some pretty bad mistakes in his games with the nexus snipe, sentry snipe, stalkers jsut sitting around, and immortals np. I think if the two rematch again, then we will see an amazing match. In fact, I'm hoping for an epic Mc/Idra, Mc/thorzain, naniwa/thorzain, or anything with losira finals :3
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 04 2011 07:30 GMT
#7727
What happened to the Slush vs Naniwa game?

In scorething I see that Slush won 2-1 but no match details.

In that other group overlook thing I see naniwa is 3-0 and Slush 0-2.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
June 04 2011 07:31 GMT
#7728
Will there be a way to get the premium pass without having a credit card?
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 07:31:47
June 04 2011 07:31 GMT
#7729
On June 04 2011 16:30 eYeball wrote:
What happened to the Slush vs Naniwa game?

In scorething I see that Slush won 2-1 but no match details.

In that other group overlook thing I see naniwa is 3-0 and Slush 0-2.


Naniwa is 2-1 and slush is 2-1, slush won the naniwa vs slush series.
ElementalKnight
Profile Joined January 2011
57 Posts
June 04 2011 07:31 GMT
#7730
Team Liquid Twitter's saying that Naniwa beat Slush and is now 3-0 in the group. *shrug*
SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
June 04 2011 07:32 GMT
#7731
On June 04 2011 16:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:25 dc302 wrote:
Are people forgetting that part of the reason why Zergs are 'dominating' right now may be because its Losira, Moon and Idra playing? As in, it's more to do with the players themselves, rather than the race imho.

Sorry but that's a crap argument ... by implication are you saying that there are no talented players playing other races

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red/ game 2 of idra vs MC coming up

The reason protoss are losing against zerg at the moment is that they are all being outmacroed really really badly.


That, and they are becoming extremely predictable.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 04 2011 07:32 GMT
#7732
On June 04 2011 16:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:25 dc302 wrote:
Are people forgetting that part of the reason why Zergs are 'dominating' right now may be because its Losira, Moon and Idra playing? As in, it's more to do with the players themselves, rather than the race imho.

Sorry but that's a crap argument ... by implication are you saying that there are no talented players playing other races

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red/ game 2 of idra vs MC coming up

The reason protoss are losing against zerg at the moment is that they are all being outmacroed really really badly.

You mean outplayed? lulz :D Yeah, I didn't really see a point in which Idra could've lost (except for those 3 zealots)
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Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
June 04 2011 07:32 GMT
#7733
If everything goes in the same way, idra vs mc gonna start in somewhat 30mins right?
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
June 04 2011 07:33 GMT
#7734
On June 04 2011 16:22 SundeR. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:20 nAgeDitto wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:17 Nolot wrote:
Not surprised zergs are owning, after all the insane buffs they got recently. I'm thinking a ZvZ final for this one, IdrA vs july

I wouldn't say its the insane buff. If you think about it they're last buff was like 2 patches ago. I just think they're finally figuring out how to play Zerg, just like Protoss players finally figured out how to play protoss despite the constant nerf ever since the beginning of the release of wings of liberty.


Pretty spot on imo.

If you look at the play style of zergs of early sc2 and zergs of now, theres a MASSIVE difference.

think thats what is leading to a huge 'rise' of zergs in major tourneys (of course players that were great even w/ the 'wrong' playstyle pretty much performed well.)


I would like to know about this 'insane' buff and where I can read up on it.

There's a big difference between Protoss figuring out how to exploit various ridiculousness versus particular races and Zerg figuring out how to adapt to all of those ridiculous exploitations, just saying.

I'd say Roach range and Fungal damage/time were some pretty huge buffs. You can read up on them in the patch notes. I'm not saying it's OP, but it definitely increased Zerg's chances of winning. Helions and Reapers can no longer kite Roaches and any type of bio play or drop play is much harder now due to the Fungal buff.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 07:35:58
June 04 2011 07:34 GMT
#7735
On June 04 2011 16:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:28 Plexa wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:25 dc302 wrote:
Are people forgetting that part of the reason why Zergs are 'dominating' right now may be because its Losira, Moon and Idra playing? As in, it's more to do with the players themselves, rather than the race imho.

Sorry but that's a crap argument ... by implication are you saying that there are no talented players playing other races

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red/ game 2 of idra vs MC coming up

The reason protoss are losing against zerg at the moment is that they are all being outmacroed really really badly.

You mean outplayed? lulz :D Yeah, I didn't really see a point in which Idra could've lost (except for those 3 zealots)

Uh Idra won the first game when MC's VR didnt stop/halt idras drone production or kill off the third. So basically MC was way behind economically and Idra was able to roflstomp from there. Zergs have gotten really good at defending such things, and other timing pushes, and protoss need to start thinking about how they're playing.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 04 2011 07:35 GMT
#7736
On June 04 2011 16:33 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:22 SundeR. wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:20 nAgeDitto wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:17 Nolot wrote:
Not surprised zergs are owning, after all the insane buffs they got recently. I'm thinking a ZvZ final for this one, IdrA vs july

I wouldn't say its the insane buff. If you think about it they're last buff was like 2 patches ago. I just think they're finally figuring out how to play Zerg, just like Protoss players finally figured out how to play protoss despite the constant nerf ever since the beginning of the release of wings of liberty.


Pretty spot on imo.

If you look at the play style of zergs of early sc2 and zergs of now, theres a MASSIVE difference.

think thats what is leading to a huge 'rise' of zergs in major tourneys (of course players that were great even w/ the 'wrong' playstyle pretty much performed well.)


I would like to know about this 'insane' buff and where I can read up on it.

There's a big difference between Protoss figuring out how to exploit various ridiculousness versus particular races and Zerg figuring out how to adapt to all of those ridiculous exploitations, just saying.

I'd say Roach range and Fungal damage/time were some pretty huge buffs. You can read up on them in the patch notes. I'm not saying it's OP, but it definitely increased Zerg's chances of winning. Helions and Reapers can no longer kite Roaches and any type of bio play or drop play is much harder now due to the Fungal buff.


Show me a game where drops are stopped by fungal and I'll show you a bad terran.
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 04 2011 07:36 GMT
#7737
On June 04 2011 16:33 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 16:22 SundeR. wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:20 nAgeDitto wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2011 16:17 Nolot wrote:
Not surprised zergs are owning, after all the insane buffs they got recently. I'm thinking a ZvZ final for this one, IdrA vs july

I wouldn't say its the insane buff. If you think about it they're last buff was like 2 patches ago. I just think they're finally figuring out how to play Zerg, just like Protoss players finally figured out how to play protoss despite the constant nerf ever since the beginning of the release of wings of liberty.


Pretty spot on imo.

If you look at the play style of zergs of early sc2 and zergs of now, theres a MASSIVE difference.

think thats what is leading to a huge 'rise' of zergs in major tourneys (of course players that were great even w/ the 'wrong' playstyle pretty much performed well.)


I would like to know about this 'insane' buff and where I can read up on it.

There's a big difference between Protoss figuring out how to exploit various ridiculousness versus particular races and Zerg figuring out how to adapt to all of those ridiculous exploitations, just saying.

I'd say Roach range and Fungal damage/time were some pretty huge buffs. You can read up on them in the patch notes. I'm not saying it's OP, but it definitely increased Zerg's chances of winning. Helions and Reapers can no longer kite Roaches and any type of bio play or drop play is much harder now due to the Fungal buff.


I start with 40-50 marines by the time I get to a zergs base Im down to like 20 marines. Fungal is the storm that just keeps giving.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
June 04 2011 07:36 GMT
#7738
IDRA vs MC re-streaming in few minutes!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
June 04 2011 07:37 GMT
#7739
Jup, just as the amulet was removed from the templar, the energy upgrade from infestors should be removed aswell :D
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
June 04 2011 07:37 GMT
#7740
On June 04 2011 16:36 ilbh wrote:
IDRA vs MC re-streaming in few minutes!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red


It's a recording. all the restreams start from the beginning from when you begin watching.
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