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SuperNomad
Profile Joined July 2009
United Kingdom70 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1041
Wow, archons are so good.
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1042
As much is I like Mana, Kas just had bad day, way to many mistakes by him. I hope he wlll get better soon
Nothing to add.
yosisoy
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel202 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1043
Mana hwaiting! This guy has some sick pvt, it's crazy. Great micro too.
In Soviet Russia, sorrow harvest you
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1044
Kas is out of form or something. Not the beast we're used to see.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
Arakis
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany9 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1045
Unexpected. Not sure what that "funny right?" was...
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#1046
Well that's the problem with invitationals, you always risk getting a joke of a player.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1047
Throwing that banshee away so bad

Again barely any vikings
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1048
Oooh, looks like I kicked up quite a storm. Sorry everyone!

Kas just looked very rusty today. Maybe lack of practice? Anywho, we only have Thorzain left! Go TSL champion!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4709 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1049
Well played Mana, guess today is not Kas day
Pathetic Greta hater.
thepeonwhocould
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 15:47:20
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1050
Mana's PVT looks really solid. He seamlessly combines Colossus tech with high templar and chargelots. I can't wait to get a hold of these replays to see how he times his high templar switch so well. His storms and archon morphs are perfect.

This is how you play PVT folks.
Hilo
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia114 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1051
Kas was paid to lose T_T
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1052
On June 13 2011 00:40 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:36 Brainiac wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:33 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:31 Brainiac wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:30 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:27 Telcontar wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:24 SuperStyle wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:22 Telcontar wrote:
That's why I don't sack my entire army to kill expansions unless I have like 3~4 PFs protecting my front.




these games just show that kas has absolutely NO clue about timings or anything related to timings at all


Yeah sure, professional player, who plays like 50 games every day and i 6 GM Europe has no clue about timings. And you judge from a one game.
Plz just.... go away

i never said kas was bad
i personally think kas is an amazing terran and very good at this game
however he plays a style of terran that doesn't rely on timings which mana is clearly abusing as in last game, where he did a 4 gate into a double expansion while rushing templar tech, this leaves a HUGE timing window that kas literally did not touch or think of touching


You cant be very good at this game with no clue about timings. Kas was just following Artosis rule - when you are ahead - get more ahead. But templar is kind of gamechanging unit and he microed poorly. That's all. I assure you he knows 10 x more about this game that you, which means he totally realises what are you talking about.

Okay I'll humour you.
First off, Kas is not 10x better than me.
Second, getting more ahead is not the Artosis rule, if anything it should be the Day9 rule considering it was his essay topic in "The Marginal Advantage".
Third, why are you talking for Kas when his play tells me more than anything you could ever say?
Four, even in this game Kas choosed to turtle and try expand again instead of pressuring Mana before his second Colossus was out. This is a very basic timing that Kas clearly ignored.
Five, yes, you can be good at this game without knowing timings. Terran is not a race that relies on timings unless you choose to play that style. Mana is just abusing this.
That's all.

I hope Kas doesn't miss his EMPs again.


Take you meds plz and never post again
chickenhawk
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal339 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1053
Second, getting more ahead is not the Artosis rule, if anything it should be the Day9 rule considering it was his essay topic in "The Marginal Advantage".


Actually day9 rule is: "When you are ahead, just go fucking kill him."
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#1054
On June 13 2011 00:45 Pochtli wrote:
":DD funny right?" -Kas

Wonder what he meant by that.


He's frustrated that he's losing to someone who doesn't play 24/7 like him

He's complaining a lot about balance lately (both in TvP and TvZ).
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
June 12 2011 15:47 GMT
#1055
Great tournament so far, really enjoying it
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
June 12 2011 15:47 GMT
#1056
On June 13 2011 00:36 Brainiac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:33 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:31 Brainiac wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:30 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:27 Telcontar wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:24 SuperStyle wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:22 Telcontar wrote:
That's why I don't sack my entire army to kill expansions unless I have like 3~4 PFs protecting my front.




these games just show that kas has absolutely NO clue about timings or anything related to timings at all


Yeah sure, professional player, who plays like 50 games every day and i 6 GM Europe has no clue about timings. And you judge from a one game.
Plz just.... go away

i never said kas was bad
i personally think kas is an amazing terran and very good at this game
however he plays a style of terran that doesn't rely on timings which mana is clearly abusing as in last game, where he did a 4 gate into a double expansion while rushing templar tech, this leaves a HUGE timing window that kas literally did not touch or think of touching


You cant be very good at this game with no clue about timings. Kas was just following Artosis rule - when you are ahead - get more ahead. But templar is kind of gamechanging unit and he microed poorly. That's all. I assure you he knows 10 x more about this game that you, which means he totally realises what are you talking about.

Edit: he can also have a bad day - those happens to everyone, doesn't mean that he suddenly lost the knowledge about the game.


Stop belittling the Artosis rule. :/ Kas was sitting back and did nothing while allowing MaNa to get on 3 bases and get to High Templar tech after a failed 4gate. That's not getting ahead that's failing miserably. It has absolutely nothing to do with "When You Are Ahead Get More Ahead."
Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
June 12 2011 15:48 GMT
#1057
Mana did very well in all 3 games. Really looking forward to see semis. Especially, cos there wont be any mirror matchup
Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
June 12 2011 15:49 GMT
#1058
On June 13 2011 00:45 iloevrsg wrote:
pfff kas is pathetic, not as a gamer but as a person, sad guy.


Have you actually met the guy? Talked to him? Kas is very humble and awesome, such a cool dude. Just had a bad day I think.
Life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish flanders was dead. - Homer
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
June 12 2011 15:49 GMT
#1059
I laugh at people complaining about wait times in between games but yet not a lot of these trolls realise that it's probably TB by himself. I've seen worse run tournaments that've had a dedicated team of people organising and running the tournament.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 15:51:14
June 12 2011 15:49 GMT
#1060
On June 13 2011 00:46 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:45 Pochtli wrote:
":DD funny right?" -Kas

Wonder what he meant by that.


He's frustrated that he's losing to someone who doesn't play 24/7 like him

He's complaining a lot about balance lately (both in TvP and TvZ).


Yeah, probably. I really think it's unjustified and even if the game is unbalanced that wasn't the right place to show your opinion about it. Really poor sportmanship by Kas, held high respect for him but dropped to zero now.
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