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On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv
Maybe, jtv has been promising to fix EU servers for months.
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On June 02 2011 12:57 bobwhiz wrote:
Anyone remember the old Age of Empires quote -"Sure.. blame it on your ISP."
We should bring back a few of the other ones "Start the game alreadddyyy"
"Monk... I need a monnk"
"All hail, king of the losers!"
"It is good to be the king!"
"Wololo weeneenee"
"Wood please."
the memoriess.....
On June 02 2011 12:58 bobwhiz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:56 doffe wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 bobwhiz wrote:On June 02 2011 12:45 doffe wrote:On June 02 2011 12:38 guitarizt wrote:On June 02 2011 11:39 Xxavi wrote:
I have more respect for Grubby now that he still shows up for his games unlike certain PainUser. Painuser is working 40+ hours a week at ign and is retired from the tournament scene. He should still show up for 3games a week when he has agreed to it. Its disrespectful towards us and NASL since I asume his busy schedule would not stop him if he were 7-0? And even if you think he has the right to just dont show, he didnt even give a reason, he simply did not show (atleast thats the info ive gotten) and thats just stupid, can you think of any other sport where this would not be severally frowned upon. And furthermore, with the stream going down atleast 1time every night Ive watched this show there is NO way I will pay for further seasons, I gladly support e-sports with my money and if the production had been awsome I could pay more then 25$ for this many games but when most shows leave me more frustrated then satisfied I must say that NASL really has to prove themselves to get more of my mine (and yes I did pay this season) I'm gonna pay for next season and watch the VODs rather than the live stream. I didn't pay for this season, as I'm not financially that well off, but the sheer number of games, and the quality of many of them, and the strong local scene make me want to support iNc and the bunch. When I see gretorp rolling around in anything better than a honda civic, then I'll stop. Id rather give my money to productions that are doing well. If the mistakes in NSL where cause of lack of funds I could have agreed somewhat but spoiling results atleast three times due to editing errors etc is just simply imcompetence and that will not earn my money. TSL is so far my favourite production and Id rather pay 50$ to see one more of those then 25$ for one more season NASL as the quality is now. The number of games is awsome but lack of SC2 content is not really an issue atm is it? There is TONs of good tournaments and asuming you do other things then watch SC2 theres not enough time watch everything as it is. I think the scene is big enough to let us start demanding good productions and not just existing ones. Is there a way to donate to TL?
buy a shirt!
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On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv
Maybe because you're from USA 
I bounce from the US live stream to the EU restream, and the EU one isn't watchable here most of the time. jtv on this one o think.
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On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv
Nah I agree, the EU restream has had less Issues for me aswell, the problem is I work nights so the US stream is at a perfect time for me =)
* although I havnt watched it very many times so It may simply be a coincidence that thats worked better for me.
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On June 02 2011 12:57 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 bobwhiz wrote:On June 02 2011 12:47 Coolwhip wrote:On June 02 2011 12:45 bobwhiz wrote:On June 02 2011 12:41 Scarramanga wrote:On June 02 2011 12:37 Xxavi wrote:
What Grubby has to do is to join a good team, get his head down and start practicing hard. He looks pretty terrible, laughable in fact. Creating his own team etc. makes him look like a delusional guy a bit. What grubby needs to do is not listen to your bm, and just keep practicing. He already proved he is succesful at pro gaming ... have you ? I don't think it's BM to say someone's play looks laughable at a pro level. It may be wrong, but it's not bad mannered. OP wants Grubby to improve and be dominant it appears- at least good. Thusfar, let's not lie, Grubby hasn't been good. It's not my goal to be a pro-gamer or a marathon runner, but I can tell you when both are doing their job poorly. 0-8 in NASL, or 2:30+ on the course. Neither of which I am capable of. Don't think too lowly of yourself. I think you are capable of going 0-8, I believe in you man! I'd have to get into the NASL first. Which I am incapable of. I can't even beat a solid low-diamond player, and I make great tactical decisions (most of the time)... it's just the macro-mechanics and micro of battles I'm so bad at. Keep telling yourself that.
Ok... I have no desire to get to that level of Starcraft, but I enjoy watching those who have worked hard to get there.
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On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU
he's a gifted ape
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On June 02 2011 12:59 MozoM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv Maybe because you're from USA I bounce from the US live stream to the EU restream, and the EU one isn't watchable here most of the time. jtv on this one o think.
There are different sites for the EU restream? They dont just replay the same thing on www.justin.tv/naslseasonone ?
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On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU Of course it's more complicated. But it's safer. That's the point. A sacrifice of logistics in name of stability.
And it's not too difficult at all to give the video to a few people a day or so before streaming.
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On June 02 2011 13:02 VIB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU Of course it's more complicated. But it's safer. That's the point. A sacrifice of logistics in name of stability. And it's not too difficult at all to give the video to a few people a day or so before streaming.
I think his point is that it's not just giving the video to people and broadcasting it, there are other more technical things going on even though it is prerecorded that makes that unfeasible.
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On June 02 2011 12:53 Coolwhip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:50 MrProb wrote:
Grubby still needs some time to get rid of WC3 instinct imo.
Hes so used to WC3 cuz thats what hes been playing his whole life.
Some of the best sc2 players came from wc3, so that just sound like weak excuses imo.
Grubby started very late.
Most ex-wc3 players who are now very good in sc2 didn't play wc3 till the end. They didn't invest as much time into wc3 as grubby, moon and lyn have and were never as good as they were in wc3.
It's only natural that those top wc3-players need more time to transition than say a naniwa/kas/thorzain who weren't really that active in wc3 in the end.
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On June 02 2011 13:00 HelloxD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU he's a gifted ape
and so are you btw. Unless you are just a regular non-gifted-ape that is.
So once again artosis' awesomeness crashes the internet.
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On June 02 2011 13:02 VIB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU Of course it's more complicated. But it's safer. That's the point. A sacrifice of logistics in name of stability. And it's not too difficult at all to give the video to a few people a day or so before streaming.
I think hes saying its not as simple as having a backup of the recording video at some random other location, theyd have to have a back-up broadcast team basically ;p
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On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv
What job allows you to watch NASL all day? D:
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On June 02 2011 13:05 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 13:02 VIB wrote:On June 02 2011 12:58 iNcontroL wrote:On June 02 2011 12:57 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just an idea for nasl producers.
Since the videos are pre-recorded, and it seems like these technical difficulties happen a lot. Possibly have someone(even 2-3 people) with a copy of the video at their house, and in the event of stream dying, they can log in from home and resume streaming. Just an idea. It's infinitely more complicated than playing a video at a CPU Of course it's more complicated. But it's safer. That's the point. A sacrifice of logistics in name of stability. And it's not too difficult at all to give the video to a few people a day or so before streaming. I think hes saying its not as simple as having a backup of the recording video at some random other location, theyd have to have a back-up broadcast team basically ;p
Not to get off-topic but if you have time to read this thread/not practice how much NASL/other tourneys do you watch?
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On June 02 2011 13:05 AntiGrav1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:53 Coolwhip wrote:On June 02 2011 12:50 MrProb wrote:
Grubby still needs some time to get rid of WC3 instinct imo.
Hes so used to WC3 cuz thats what hes been playing his whole life.
Some of the best sc2 players came from wc3, so that just sound like weak excuses imo. Grubby started very late. Most ex-wc3 players who are now very good in sc2 didn't play wc3 till the end. They didn't invest as much time into wc3 as grubby, moon and lyn have and were never as good as they were in wc3. It's only natural that those top wc3-players need more time to transition than say a naniwa/kas/thorzain who weren't really that active in wc3.
How long have he been playing SC2 then? I think separating people as BW and WC3 players in general is pretty silly considering how long most have focused on SC2 now.
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On June 02 2011 13:06 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv What job allows you to watch NASL all day? D:
Tons of jobs have the ability to watch a stream while at work. It all depends on your job and the company that you work for (or own your own business)
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On June 02 2011 13:06 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv What job allows you to watch NASL all day? D:
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On June 02 2011 13:07 Vendor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 13:06 Chicane wrote:On June 02 2011 12:57 mathsucks wrote:On June 02 2011 12:53 Hrwa wrote:On June 02 2011 12:48 TheGiftedApe wrote:
how can one tourney have so much trouble with justin.tv i dont understand the problem really, I dont think i've actually ever made it through an entire night of nasl. There is always some kind of technical difficulty. At this point it seems more like difficulty with technology rather than technical difficulties. It would be one thing if this was live everyday, but they are just streaming a pre-recorded video, they really should have sorted this out by now. Still like nasl but this kinda stuff hurts your viewer count. I'm not 100% who to blame, as I seem to have lots of trouble with any justin.tv stream, but nasl seems to have even more trouble than me.
glhf nasl You should watch EU restream, even worse. I typically watch the EU restream, because it's 9am for me and starts my workday out perfectly...I rarely have issues. Maybe it's just EU and not NASL/jtv What job allows you to watch NASL all day? D: Tons of jobs have the ability to watch a stream while at work. It all depends on your job and the company that you work for (or own your own business)
The question is wether or not your boss approves most indoor jobs gives the option I guess
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Man, if this was IGN they'd never be able to get away with it. People would get fired. Surely several thousand of us (I'm guessing) paying $25USD and on top of that sponsors could produce better quality. Where's all the money going to? How much if the profit margin?
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I don't have internet at home yet after moving, so I walked to a McD (with air conditioning that is freezing me in a hot summer night) @11 in the night to get internet to watch nasl. My girlfriend is sitting beside me angry because she doesn't want to walk home herself, and I'm waiting for the games, which won't be finished in at least an hour.
I understand you guys are doing your best, and the situation might not be your fault, but i'm still really really pissed off right now.
Like
Really, really, pissed, off.
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