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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:18:19
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#261
:/ he gave up
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#262
hmm derp ???

prolly coz of lag yeah.
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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#263
On May 27 2011 11:16 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:15 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:13 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:12 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:09 thoradycus wrote:
ensnare's money is at 1k..........



....he's lagging like fuck

lag doesn't affect macro. I guess it could put you on tilt and that would affect macro, but the lag itself does not.

given the game he just played in GSL, I would not assume that his macro is actually good in normal conditions



Uhmmm yes it does. Have you ever played with lag?

I live in South Africa. I always play with lag.



Then you understand the concept of key pressing and it's delay into being recieved by the game.....

Yes, it doesn't matter. He almost certainly has under 1 second latency (any higher and you tend to just drop). It is not a big deal to queue for 1 second, people do that when there's no lag too.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#264
Yea that lag sucked, but the GG wasn't that premature. Even if the lag had completely cleared up, Ensnare was nearly out of bases, while Darkforce had 6 possible mining bases or something. Not to mention the army difference.

The lag definitely shrunk his army, his resource management was terrible due to lag.

Sucks for Ensnare, but nevertheless he is playing in NASL from Korea.
neats
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada59 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#265
rofl gretorp's flyinnnn.

GOGO WHITERA.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#266
Not how i wanted that series to end. Shame ensnare was having issues with latency.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
May 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#267
haha mr bitter is all

"not like this ...........not like this"
gl hf gg
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
May 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#268
If there was ever a time to QQ about lag this is it.. Well, not really anyones fault I guess. Too bad though
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
May 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#269
Wow... 2 rax marine all in w/ SCVs have really fallen in power since the days of BitByBit, eh?
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
May 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#270
On May 27 2011 11:17 godemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:13 Xeris wrote:
To clarify: we understood the lag was unbearably bad. However, we don't have any rules in place that allow matches to be postponed because of lag. We asked DarkForcE if he would play the following day, when there would hopefully not be lag -- he said no. We asked DarkForcE to wait until after the next match in hopes that lag would clear up and then finish the series -- he said no.

Unfortunately for Ensnare we continued to play. I feel bad for him but nothing we can do there.

kk, lag sucks, but thanks for explanation. gj darkforce!

really? that's such a dick move from darkforce, i guess he thought he couldn't win other wise?
this mah s#$%$
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#271
I can't help but feel the worse player won here.... and not because of any major mistakes on ensnares part. It's like in game 3 he just gave up hope of a decent game without lag and decided to cheese all in. It's a real shame.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#272
On May 27 2011 11:18 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:16 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:15 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:13 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:12 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:09 thoradycus wrote:
ensnare's money is at 1k..........



....he's lagging like fuck

lag doesn't affect macro. I guess it could put you on tilt and that would affect macro, but the lag itself does not.

given the game he just played in GSL, I would not assume that his macro is actually good in normal conditions



Uhmmm yes it does. Have you ever played with lag?

I live in South Africa. I always play with lag.



Then you understand the concept of key pressing and it's delay into being recieved by the game.....

Yes, it doesn't matter. He almost certainly has under 1 second latency (any higher and you tend to just drop). It is not a big deal to queue for 1 second, people do that when there's no lag too.


No you don't. I'm starting to think you're just making shit up. I've played with 3-4 second delay, dropping is never related to the amount of delay
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:20:40
May 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#273
On May 27 2011 11:18 fant0m wrote:

Sucks for Ensnare, but nevertheless he is playing in NASL from Korea.


QFT, at least they don't have to fly the fuck out here and live in a foreign culture for a month to play in this tournament like foreigners do for GSL. So no bitching about lag. If people want to complain to anyone complain to Blizzard.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
May 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#274
his allin was worse because of lag, he allined because of tvz.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:21:39
May 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#275
On May 27 2011 11:13 Xeris wrote:
To clarify: we understood the lag was unbearably bad. However, we don't have any rules in place that allow matches to be postponed because of lag. We asked DarkForcE if he would play the following day, when there would hopefully not be lag -- he said no. We asked DarkForcE to wait until after the next match in hopes that lag would clear up and then finish the series -- he said no.

Unfortunately for Ensnare we continued to play. I feel bad for him but nothing we can do there.


That makes it a shady win in my eyes. It's one thing if Ensnare was stubborn and pretended like lag wasn't affecting anything, but Darkforce was given the option of (possibly) making it an even playing field.

Looking forward to White-Ra and Incontrol!
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
May 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#276
On May 27 2011 11:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:15 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:13 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:12 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:09 thoradycus wrote:
ensnare's money is at 1k..........



....he's lagging like fuck

lag doesn't affect macro. I guess it could put you on tilt and that would affect macro, but the lag itself does not.

given the game he just played in GSL, I would not assume that his macro is actually good in normal conditions



Uhmmm yes it does. Have you ever played with lag?

I live in South Africa. I always play with lag.


So if scv doesn't build until 5 seconds after you hit s and workers don't start building supply depots until 5 seconds after you tell them to your macro will still be fine?

You could never maintain a connection at 5 seconds latency. Don't make shit up.


Horse shit. I've played in conditions in which I've had that kind of delay, how about you don't accuse people of making shit up?

i think yo are the one full of shit, 5 seconds is a fucking long ass time and you would 100% drop out of the game long before even a full 2 seconds of lag
Hi
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#277
On May 27 2011 11:18 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:16 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:15 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:13 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:12 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:09 thoradycus wrote:
ensnare's money is at 1k..........



....he's lagging like fuck

lag doesn't affect macro. I guess it could put you on tilt and that would affect macro, but the lag itself does not.

given the game he just played in GSL, I would not assume that his macro is actually good in normal conditions



Uhmmm yes it does. Have you ever played with lag?

I live in South Africa. I always play with lag.



Then you understand the concept of key pressing and it's delay into being recieved by the game.....

Yes, it doesn't matter. He almost certainly has under 1 second latency (any higher and you tend to just drop). It is not a big deal to queue for 1 second, people do that when there's no lag too.

but then ensnare had lag spikes thruout the entire game so that threw him off as well
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
May 27 2011 02:21 GMT
#278
For those who don't understand how bad is playing with lag. Start upload a video for example in youtube and then go play a Starcraft game. Micro is impossible and macro is 10x harder. You can't even split probes equally through the crystal patches. Poor Ensnare.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 27 2011 02:21 GMT
#279
On May 27 2011 11:19 elementz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:17 godemperor wrote:
On May 27 2011 11:13 Xeris wrote:
To clarify: we understood the lag was unbearably bad. However, we don't have any rules in place that allow matches to be postponed because of lag. We asked DarkForcE if he would play the following day, when there would hopefully not be lag -- he said no. We asked DarkForcE to wait until after the next match in hopes that lag would clear up and then finish the series -- he said no.

Unfortunately for Ensnare we continued to play. I feel bad for him but nothing we can do there.

kk, lag sucks, but thanks for explanation. gj darkforce!

really? that's such a dick move from darkforce, i guess he thought he couldn't win other wise?


Let's be realistic, Do you really think the lag would have been gone tomorrow ?
In a lag situation, aren't both the players handicaped the same way ?
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 27 2011 02:21 GMT
#280
On May 27 2011 11:13 Xeris wrote:
To clarify: we understood the lag was unbearably bad. However, we don't have any rules in place that allow matches to be postponed because of lag. We asked DarkForcE if he would play the following day, when there would hopefully not be lag -- he said no. We asked DarkForcE to wait until after the next match in hopes that lag would clear up and then finish the series -- he said no.

Unfortunately for Ensnare we continued to play. I feel bad for him but nothing we can do there.


That's fair enough. Can't really blame any parties. It's just a shame it happens but it is what it is. Nothing can really be done about it.
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