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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 22 2011 04:02 GMT
#741
Yay, no 4 gate from MC for once!
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 22 2011 04:02 GMT
#742
On May 22 2011 12:59 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 12:58 hugedong wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:55 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:54 Figgy wrote:
MC's micro is horrible, the korean lag is really showing here. Makes me sad.


Stop with the excuses, he was outplayed.


That was a completely micro oriented situation. No outplaying happened.


He out microed him, thus he outplayed him. MC choose the strategy, he only has himself to blame, not lag.

It's pvp, every strategy requires micro.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 22 2011 04:03 GMT
#743
On May 22 2011 13:01 HolyArrow wrote:
For the record, I'm on vacation in Thailand right now and I've tried playing from SEA to NA with some friends. It's extremely difficult to micro, and I'd imagine KR to NA is similar (from what people like IdrA have said, I'd imagine so). I literally can't forcefield properly, nor can I do subtle unit movements with good precision. Don't know if this example is too relevant, but lag is definitely pretty bad from these distances in my experience.


Definitely interesting to hear, even if it's just confirming what we've heard before

Always thought people who think lag literally isn't a factor are kidding themselves
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
daemonjr
Profile Joined January 2011
United States48 Posts
May 22 2011 04:03 GMT
#744
On May 22 2011 12:59 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 12:58 daemonjr wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:47 daemonjr wrote:
I am logged in 1080p high stream and payed, but still getting adds, anyone else having this problem?

never had that happen

Im gonna flip out. I mean I am watching 1080 and if I'm not mistaken the only way to get 1080 is to pay for the stream, SO WHY WOULD THEY HAVE ADDS enabled for this stream? Not to mention being logged in, man NASL just continues to be a failure for me. First 5 weeks lag issues, now that it seems to be running good I am getting blasted with adds.

oh no, you have to watch an ad instead of a timer countdown for 1 minute in between games.

yes oh no, I paid for the right not to have to sit through it.

I am watching it through the TeamLiquid Link, I have logged out and back of justin.tv, made sure that my browser remembers me, this happened to me last night as well so Im not sure whats going on.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
May 22 2011 04:03 GMT
#745
On May 22 2011 13:02 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:00 vdale wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:58 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:57 Trsjnica wrote:
It is hard to not blame lag when MC is doing so poorly in the NASL. He is 18-3 in PvP games on TLPD.


This. His PvP record is ridiculous and so far, most of the PvPs he's dropped has been in online tournaments . You can't say that correlation means nothing.

he barely won against White-Ra at Dreamhack and White-Ra isn't known for his good PvP in Europe.


Okay, you have a single cherry-picked example. Way to ignore the rest of MC's PvP record. You prove nothing.

There aren't many PvPs against foreigners to pick from.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 22 2011 04:03 GMT
#746
On May 22 2011 13:02 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 12:59 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:58 hugedong wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:55 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:54 Figgy wrote:
MC's micro is horrible, the korean lag is really showing here. Makes me sad.


Stop with the excuses, he was outplayed.


That was a completely micro oriented situation. No outplaying happened.


He out microed him, thus he outplayed him. MC choose the strategy, he only has himself to blame, not lag.

It's pvp, every strategy requires micro.


All I'm hearing is excuse after excuse.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
May 22 2011 04:04 GMT
#747
How can people say it's lag issues for MC? I mean Ace doesn't seem to have any problems playing on NA. In fact the majority of the koreans are doing extremely well in NASL.

I think the bigger issue is MC is taking NASL too lightly. He probably doesn't prepare anything specific for the games or review anything about his opponents. I bet his cockiness is what is holding him back.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 22 2011 04:04 GMT
#748
On May 22 2011 13:00 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 12:58 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:57 Trsjnica wrote:
It is hard to not blame lag when MC is doing so poorly in the NASL. He is 18-3 in PvP games on TLPD.


This. His PvP record is ridiculous and so far, most of the PvPs he's dropped has been in online tournaments . You can't say that correlation means nothing.

he barely won against White-Ra at Dreamhack and White-Ra isn't known for his good PvP in Europe.

White ra also lost MC 3-0 in which white ra was the 4 gate aggressor in the first 2 games.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 22 2011 04:04 GMT
#749
On May 22 2011 13:03 daemonjr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 12:59 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:58 daemonjr wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:47 daemonjr wrote:
I am logged in 1080p high stream and payed, but still getting adds, anyone else having this problem?

never had that happen

Im gonna flip out. I mean I am watching 1080 and if I'm not mistaken the only way to get 1080 is to pay for the stream, SO WHY WOULD THEY HAVE ADDS enabled for this stream? Not to mention being logged in, man NASL just continues to be a failure for me. First 5 weeks lag issues, now that it seems to be running good I am getting blasted with adds.

oh no, you have to watch an ad instead of a timer countdown for 1 minute in between games.

yes oh no, I paid for the right not to have to sit through it.

I am watching it through the TeamLiquid Link, I have logged out and back of justin.tv, made sure that my browser remembers me, this happened to me last night as well so Im not sure whats going on.


I'd try to watch via JTV or right on nasl.tv. Those are my only ideas.
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daemonjr
Profile Joined January 2011
United States48 Posts
May 22 2011 04:05 GMT
#750
On May 22 2011 13:04 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:03 daemonjr wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:59 Moonwrath wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:58 daemonjr wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:50 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 22 2011 12:47 daemonjr wrote:
I am logged in 1080p high stream and payed, but still getting adds, anyone else having this problem?

never had that happen

Im gonna flip out. I mean I am watching 1080 and if I'm not mistaken the only way to get 1080 is to pay for the stream, SO WHY WOULD THEY HAVE ADDS enabled for this stream? Not to mention being logged in, man NASL just continues to be a failure for me. First 5 weeks lag issues, now that it seems to be running good I am getting blasted with adds.

oh no, you have to watch an ad instead of a timer countdown for 1 minute in between games.

yes oh no, I paid for the right not to have to sit through it.

I am watching it through the TeamLiquid Link, I have logged out and back of justin.tv, made sure that my browser remembers me, this happened to me last night as well so Im not sure whats going on.


I'd try to watch via JTV or right on nasl.tv. Those are my only ideas.

thanks, ill give that a shot tomorrow night
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#751
nice hold by MC, not every day you see a toss who expands first win against 1 base
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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 04:07:08
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#752
Omg the expanding toss wins yaaaaay.


All I'm hearing is excuse after excuse.

No I didn't even watch the 1st game. I'm just saying that in pvp you can't really decide on a strategy that isn't heavily influenced by latency - they all are.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#753
Wow. That was sexy.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#754
Hasu delayed the attack just a few seconds too late.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#755
Wow. I thought Hasu had that for sure :O
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#756
MC showing whos boss
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#757
If game 2 proves anything, it's that MC should not rely on micro based timing attacks to win in the NASL. The latency has to be affecting his ability to micro.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#758
The immortal did it imo
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#759
Why did you back off HasuObs, you were ahead after the first fight and could have crushed MC's army in the seconds before his colossus came out...
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
May 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#760
nice build order by MC.

scouts the cross position and gets the econ advantage ftw
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