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On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?
Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill.
Stop lying there is no proff he stream ghosted so plz take you bias fanboys theories elswhere
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On May 20 2011 11:48 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim? Assuming you're not a troll. Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks.  Stim that was a joke =/ obviously he was referring to the fact that sjow just attacked and didnt care that stim was like 1/2 done when he was attacking.
On May 20 2011 11:48 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim? Assuming you're not a troll. Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks. Stim I think he's cutely referring to the fact that Sjow didn't actually use or even need stim to win that game.
On May 20 2011 11:48 Jman5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim? Assuming you're not a troll. Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks. Stim He wasn't trolling; he was joking.
Thanks  Haha totally flew over my head!
Hope SjoW takes game three go-go!
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USEFUL TALENT TOI HAVE
ahahahahaha TB
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Gretorp talks so quite, I literally cannot hear him
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That's a useful talent toi have. GG TB.
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On May 20 2011 11:47 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:46 TT1 wrote:
poor cruncher g1 was probably the most depressing win of his life, he doesnt know wat to do now what do you mean by that ;o?
I think he means that Crucher stole a base right off the bat, and still didn't have a lead in macro and barely won.
and then he got crushed game 2.
game 3..... (probably crushed again... but lets see )
Cruncher is a good player, but Sjow is one of the worlds best.
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On May 20 2011 11:48 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:41 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:39 s4life wrote:On May 20 2011 11:38 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:36 ScaringKids wrote:
Cruncher didnt look as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a massive risk and wasn't punished for it at all, and got a ridiculous early game advantage. It snowballed from there, shows nothing about how good or bad his play is other than he plays very risky. That's called good decision making.. stop hating I'm not hating, at all -_-. Notice I didn't say Cruncher played badly or that he didn't play well, I simply said that the game we just watched is not a good indicator of his skill level, whatever it may be. If you play risky and get away with it, even if you're an awful player, you can look pretty good. On the other hand, it's possible that he's practiced this quite a bit and knew it would work, there's just no way to tell from watching that game. Making decisions is the most important part for this particular game.. i don't know what skills you are referring to, but multitasking and APM are the most overrated assets for SC2, decision making is what distinguishes top from just good players.
....And what's your opinion of his decision making now? What he was saying was that the first game was just an early cheese that paid off; nothing relating to skill.
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On May 20 2011 11:48 biamila wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?
Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill. My understanding was that he stream-sniped him, but nobody had ever proved in either direciton if he stream cheated... though I don't pay a lot of attention to the e-drama, when possible.
You're pretty much right, Cruncher stream sniped IdrA, nothing further than that is known. So people saying, "He cheated" are assuming, a more accurate statement would be he sniped IdrA and was subsequently accused of cheating. He was never "caught cheating" that's pure misinformation.
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On May 20 2011 11:50 Scrandom wrote:
Gretorp talks so quite, I literally cannot hear him
ganja ganja
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TB so bm! Replace him immediately he dishonors our community blahblahblah.
jk quite funny
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Why is it that people believe in what Idra has to say? It's not like Idra is classy. If Cruncher is not proven to be a cheat, you cannot call him a cheat. It's an off the base accusation right now.
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On May 20 2011 11:49 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?
Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill. Stream sniped*** He already made a clarification that he wasn't watching the game during it, he just played overly safe (i.e he got two gates BEFORE IdrA even showed signs of all-ining on his stream)
He said she said. He was in the stream during the match, and had some suspicious movements, but you are all right, nothing was proven. Let's just say, IdrA and his hardcore fans believe Cruncher was cheating, Cruncher claimed he wasn't, nobody knows for sure other than Cruncher. It doesn't really matter.
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Jesus christ take your tired Idra vs cruncher arguments somewhere else please.
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On May 20 2011 11:50 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?
Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill. well he assumed he was being stream cheated ...always amuses me with streamers that cry cheat straight away if you care then dont stream if you stream then give your opponents the benefit of the doubt you are after all profiting from showing the game and know the risks involved.
QFT.
If you are afraid that streaming will be a problem for you, then stop doing it.
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On May 20 2011 11:48 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:41 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:39 s4life wrote:On May 20 2011 11:38 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:36 ScaringKids wrote:
Cruncher didnt look as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a massive risk and wasn't punished for it at all, and got a ridiculous early game advantage. It snowballed from there, shows nothing about how good or bad his play is other than he plays very risky. That's called good decision making.. stop hating I'm not hating, at all -_-. Notice I didn't say Cruncher played badly or that he didn't play well, I simply said that the game we just watched is not a good indicator of his skill level, whatever it may be. If you play risky and get away with it, even if you're an awful player, you can look pretty good. On the other hand, it's possible that he's practiced this quite a bit and knew it would work, there's just no way to tell from watching that game. Making decisions is the most important part for this particular game.. i don't know what skills you are referring to, but multitasking and APM are the most overrated assets for SC2, decision making is what distinguishes top from just good players.
Just to be clear, sjow scouts that nexus he wins, sjow doesn't scout the nexus he loses.. if you think that build is designed to hold any sort of early pressure you either don't understand the matchup or you're just downright stupid. It's akin to proxying dt tech on one base and it is a complete dice roll.
It's only clever based on the assumption that cruncher has less than a 50% shot at winning by not placing the nex.
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On May 20 2011 11:51 rdj107 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:48 s4life wrote:On May 20 2011 11:41 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:39 s4life wrote:On May 20 2011 11:38 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:36 ScaringKids wrote:
Cruncher didnt look as bad as ppl make him to be. He took a massive risk and wasn't punished for it at all, and got a ridiculous early game advantage. It snowballed from there, shows nothing about how good or bad his play is other than he plays very risky. That's called good decision making.. stop hating I'm not hating, at all -_-. Notice I didn't say Cruncher played badly or that he didn't play well, I simply said that the game we just watched is not a good indicator of his skill level, whatever it may be. If you play risky and get away with it, even if you're an awful player, you can look pretty good. On the other hand, it's possible that he's practiced this quite a bit and knew it would work, there's just no way to tell from watching that game. Making decisions is the most important part for this particular game.. i don't know what skills you are referring to, but multitasking and APM are the most overrated assets for SC2, decision making is what distinguishes top from just good players. ....And what's your opinion of his decision making now? What he was saying was that the first game was just an early cheese that paid off; nothing relating to skill.
Knowing you opponent and how to defeat him is skill in itself. Day9 told me so.
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cruncher steals a gas again
sjow going for a full wall off
cruncher's probe is immortal, he hides it in the assimilator
sjow has a racks with a tech lab a normal racks and a half way completed racks
cruccher has three gates but only one gas
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Tech lab being part of the wall in is very risky in my opinion... Got to be wary of stalkers there
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On May 20 2011 11:51 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:49 Dommk wrote:On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?
Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill. Stream sniped*** He already made a clarification that he wasn't watching the game during it, he just played overly safe (i.e he got two gates BEFORE IdrA even showed signs of all-ining on his stream) He said she said. He was in the stream during the match, and had some suspicious movements, but you are all right, nothing was proven. Let's just say, IdrA and his hardcore fans believe Cruncher was cheating, Cruncher claimed he wasn't, nobody knows for sure other than Cruncher. It doesn't really matter.
It does when you spread misinformation and say, "He was caught cheating" when nothing of the sort happened. If he was straight up caught red handed, then there would be no argument.
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How is it not obvious that sjow was feigning tech and is going for a hyperaggressive stim timing?
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