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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
May 20 2011 02:47 GMT
#741
I dont know why cruncher did that opening build order :/ I understand the pylon thing but really it was still way too risky
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biamila
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada335 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#742
On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?


Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill.


My understanding was that he stream-sniped him, but nobody had ever proved in either direciton if he stream cheated... though I don't pay a lot of attention to the e-drama, when possible.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#743
I have not been impressed by Cruncher's engagements so far. The only reason he looked ok in the first game was he had such a ridiculous economic lead. Maybe he'll make up for it in game 3, but go Sjow! Terran woot woot!
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#744
On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:
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On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim?

Assuming you're not a troll.

Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks.

(Wiki)Stim

that was a joke =/ obviously he was referring to the fact that sjow just attacked and didnt care that stim was like 1/2 done when he was attacking.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#745
Lol what the hell was that Cruncher, way to completely throw away a game.

In-base pylon was cute though, could have worked if it stayed up for another minute or so
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#746
On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim?

Assuming you're not a troll.

Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks.

(Wiki)Stim


I think he's cutely referring to the fact that Sjow didn't actually use or even need stim to win that game.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#747
On May 20 2011 11:47 Dommk wrote:
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On May 20 2011 11:46 TT1 wrote:
poor cruncher g1 was probably the most depressing win of his life, he doesnt know wat to do now

what do you mean by that ;o?


He was +1 expansion on sjow and yet had a hard time finishing him off
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#748
On May 20 2011 11:47 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:46 instant wrote:
what's stim?

Assuming you're not a troll.

Marine upgrade from the tech lab on a barracks.

(Wiki)Stim


He wasn't trolling; he was joking.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#749
On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?


Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill.


mmm...Idra rage hits again...
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
May 20 2011 02:48 GMT
#750
On May 20 2011 11:41 Whitewing wrote:
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On May 20 2011 11:39 s4life wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:38 Whitewing wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:36 ScaringKids wrote:
Cruncher didnt look as bad as ppl make him to be.


He took a massive risk and wasn't punished for it at all, and got a ridiculous early game advantage. It snowballed from there, shows nothing about how good or bad his play is other than he plays very risky.


That's called good decision making.. stop hating


I'm not hating, at all -_-. Notice I didn't say Cruncher played badly or that he didn't play well, I simply said that the game we just watched is not a good indicator of his skill level, whatever it may be. If you play risky and get away with it, even if you're an awful player, you can look pretty good. On the other hand, it's possible that he's practiced this quite a bit and knew it would work, there's just no way to tell from watching that game.


Making decisions is the most important part for this particular game.. i don't know what skills you are referring to, but multitasking and APM are the most overrated assets for SC2, decision making is what distinguishes top from just good players.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#751
On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?


Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill.

Stream sniped***

He already made a clarification that he wasn't watching the game during it, he just played overly safe (i.e he got two gates BEFORE IdrA even showed signs of all-ining on his stream)
Ramennoodlesoup
Profile Joined November 2010
United States24 Posts
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#752
On May 20 2011 11:43 Nidoa wrote:
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On May 20 2011 11:40 Ramennoodlesoup wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:29 hifriend wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:26 Vimsey wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:23 hifriend wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:21 Vimsey wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:20 hifriend wrote:
this is the cheesiest cheese I have ever seen

everything protoss does is cheese it seems ive long since stopped caring about the QQ

lol I'm not qqing, but that's economic cheese if I've ever seen it.

it gets scouted = he dies
sjow does one of several timings = he dies

why mention cheese then why not say what i was thinking watching that as a protoss player ....oh wow thats different and risky lets see how this game goes!

Well it's not my fault that some sc2 players have retarded connotations to that expression

Cheese used to be defined as something that wins/puts you far ahead for as long as it doesn't get scouted.


I've never heard of it defined that way. Couldn't be right.

Otherwise, if the other player plays blind, his opponent is cheesing no matter what...


no, cheese relies on not being scouted, while other plays aren't cheese because it won't matter much wether you scout it or not.


Huh. I'd rather call it risk taking. Cheese denotes a negative connotation and has a stigma of "unfairness" which sounds really lame in the realm of competitiveness.

You wouldn't call a quarterback sneak cheese.
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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 02:50:35
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#753
On May 20 2011 11:47 ZeromuS wrote:
I dont know why cruncher did that opening build order :/ I understand the pylon thing but really it was still way too risky


he has to be really risky to beat sjow.

edit: cheese has nothing to do with being unfair? its about taking a huge risk, and if its scouted or fails..you lose
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#754
On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?


Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it.

Rofl. He wasn't cought doing anything. That's just Idra being a sore loser and his fans being stupid.
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Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#755
NO! WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IDRA!

I'm putting my foot down!
Radin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
May 20 2011 02:49 GMT
#756
I have to admit that I've never been a fan of TotalBiscuit's solo casting, but him and Gretorp together is incredibly entertaining. If this is the first time they've casted together, I'm totally impressed. I vote for these two every Thursday.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
May 20 2011 02:50 GMT
#757
cruncher top

sjow bottom
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Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 02:50:58
May 20 2011 02:50 GMT
#758
On May 20 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:44 Garfunko wrote:
what was the 90 day ban referenced to sjow about?


Cruncher stream cheated against IdrA in a ladder game, and was caught doing it. IdrA called him a waste of a life on the forums here, and got a 2 day ban for it. IdrA then encouraged people to spam PM Chill on his Twitter, and got a 90 day ban for getting people to harass Chill.

well he assumed he was being stream cheated ...always amuses me with streamers that cry cheat straight away if you care then dont stream if you stream then give your opponents the benefit of the doubt you are after all profiting from showing the game and know the risks involved.
Johnzee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States216 Posts
May 20 2011 02:50 GMT
#759
On May 20 2011 11:48 spybreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:47 Dommk wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:46 TT1 wrote:
poor cruncher g1 was probably the most depressing win of his life, he doesnt know wat to do now

what do you mean by that ;o?


He was +1 expansion on sjow and yet had a hard time finishing him off


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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10090 Posts
May 20 2011 02:50 GMT
#760
On May 20 2011 11:47 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:46 TT1 wrote:
poor cruncher g1 was probably the most depressing win of his life, he doesnt know wat to do now

what do you mean by that ;o?


On May 20 2011 11:35 TT1 wrote:
i say sjow wins this series anyways, having a tough macro game vs someone u triple expoed against should be demoralizing
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