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Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#421
Saw incontrol getting sucessfully roach/ling all in'd on his stream, seems to work well against him.
luke3920
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom182 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#422
Oh Incontrol. Please learn to wall off.
Not write me more about balance, or next time i kick you ass
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#423
On May 20 2011 11:09 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:08 Whitewing wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
LOL even TotalBiscuit can stop zerglings! omg!

What league is he in?


I think he's platinum.

He's gold.


Alright, my mistake.

Not that there's really much of a difference, but I accept that I was wrong.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#424
that was a game full of mistakes, but good decision by moman not going into a macro game after the horrible start.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#425
On May 20 2011 11:09 AlBundy wrote:
Aaaand GG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! These protosses, when will they learn? This build is not safe anymore against Z. They'll roach-ling you to DEATH.



It had nothing to do with the build. Forcefielding his own workers? letting zerglings into his main? sending sentrys to kill zerglings? inc fucked up
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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#426
Incontrol failed with his FFs badly though. Very low level games in this match. Move on.
Hoffburger
Profile Joined May 2011
19 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#427
I mute the stream every time I feel someone is going to gg because I can't stand the random 5 seconds of porno music at the end of every map.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#428
Fking tired of watching 2 base lings+roach in pvz.
Chicken gank op
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#429

It kinda sucks, is every ZvP going to be like that?


Only until P figures out how to address the build, then the matchup will further evolve.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#430
On May 20 2011 11:09 Zephirdd wrote:
Anyone else feels that Moman can't stand a macro game and only wins with all-ins? I mean, the game where he could make whatever he wanted, he lacked creep spread and tech, but the other games he just went for NesTea's ling/roach timing..

It kinda sucks, is every ZvP going to be like that?

Maybe if players learned to defend it better Zergs will stop doing it.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#431
On May 20 2011 11:08 Phaint wrote:
I love watching iNcontrol lose, especially in such an embarrassing manner.

O.o Talk about spite...
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#432
cinnamo-man wins it out =O
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 02:12:12
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#433
On May 20 2011 11:06 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:04 TT1 wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:01 ForeverSleep wrote:
On May 20 2011 10:56 TT1 wrote:
delayed roachs are hard to deal with cus u commit to tech and start building probes making it harder to defend it tt, incontrol is lossed this game cus all the timings are messed up


But question (if I may) What would you do if a situation like that (delayed roaches and all)? Are more cannons the way to go?


i personally hate making an early game forge in pvz, i get a 4th gate instead(assuming i 3g exped), gate units with a good walloff suffices enought to defend a ling roach/mass roach allin



Would a robo+fast immortal instead of a forge work too? Assuming a 3/gate expand.


na the timing comes too fast and in any case having 1 immortal out wont do much vs a ling roach allin
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fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#434
On May 20 2011 11:08 Dommk wrote:
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On May 20 2011 11:06 bkrow wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:05 Dommk wrote:
ZZZZ

Moman seems to do some kind of semi-allin vs every Protoss

Watched IdrA ZvP lately? It seems to be the trend.

Uh? Plenty of Zergs aren't doing this kind of risky play, a lot of them are more aggressive but nothing like trying to break the Protoss wall before he even has two units


Uh? Then watch Sheth ZvP?
NightAngel
Profile Joined June 2010
United States144 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#435
Anyone else remember when iNcontrol was commentating a PvZ and the Z ran lings right up the ramp and iNcontrol said something along the lines of:

"Why did the P warp in a Zealot at his ramp? It's so easy I don't understand why he didn't do that!"

...hmmmmmm
[QUOTE][B]On August 05 2011 05:06 Beerdrinker wrote:[/B] TSL needs to be more sensitive about doing business in korea, they need to be respectful of the culture, their contracts and verbal obligations[/QUOTE]
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#436
On May 20 2011 11:10 Hoffburger wrote:
I mute the stream every time I feel someone is going to gg because I can't stand the random 5 seconds of porno music at the end of every map.


lol
It really does feel out of place. It just makes me laugh though.

jere
Profile Joined September 2010
United States121 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#437
On May 20 2011 11:09 AlBundy wrote:
Aaaand GG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! These protosses, when will they learn? This build is not safe anymore against Z. They'll roach-ling you to DEATH.


Yep Zerg can change production army or drones MoMaN chose army and won.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#438
On May 20 2011 11:09 Zephirdd wrote:
Anyone else feels that Moman can't stand a macro game and only wins with all-ins? I mean, the game where he could make whatever he wanted, he lacked creep spread and tech, but the other games he just went for NesTea's ling/roach timing..

It kinda sucks, is every ZvP going to be like that?


Protoss is very weak at that timing, and zergs are learning now that the 3 gate expand with just sentries followed by fast tech (iNcontroL was building a robo) is greedy. It's necessary for the game to evolve that zergs punish protoss at that timing, so that protoss will start playing a little less greedy, which will give zergs a little bit of an easier time. One of the reasons the deathball is so strong is that toss gets away with playing greedy early on to get an edge: stop letting them do that, and it gets easier later.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#439
moman's voice is soooooooooooooooooo french I love it lol :D
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
May 20 2011 02:11 GMT
#440
On May 20 2011 11:10 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 11:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:04 TT1 wrote:
On May 20 2011 11:01 ForeverSleep wrote:
On May 20 2011 10:56 TT1 wrote:
delayed roachs are hard to deal with cus u commit to tech and start building probes making it harder to defend it tt, incontrol is lossed this game cus all the timings are messed up


But question (if I may) What would you do if a situation like that (delayed roaches and all)? Are more cannons the way to go?


i personally hate making an early game forge in pvz, i get a 4th gate instead(assuming i 3g exped), gate units with a good walloff suffices enought to defend a ling roach/mass roach allin



Would a robo+fast immortal instead of a forge work too? Assuming a 3/gate expand.


na the timing comes too fast and having 1 immortal out wont do much vs a ling roach allin


Not that this is the right thread but mind posting some replays in the corresponding thread for this in the strategy section? The more replays of holding this kind of thing is always better for the community
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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