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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1341
Shouldn't Boxer be #1 in the group since he beat Sen?
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1342
damnit gretorp that was too homo for my tastes =.=
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1343
On May 16 2011 12:49 Raji wrote:
Aw man if only idras units were more cost efficient, then maybe his army would have been cost efficient enough to deal with sens amazing cost efficiency. But at the point in the game the cost efficient units idra had were just not cost efficient enough.

Cost efficiency decides every game i dont understand anything about.


Cost efficiency doesn't help if Sen's up a base (5 extra larvae and the econ to support it). In the time it took for IdrA to get up his third, Sen was well ahead in supply. IdrA's decision to drone up then made the disparity so much more larger.
Yargh
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1344
On May 16 2011 12:51 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Wow - Sen pulling the upset - gj Sen!

I wouldn't really call it an upset.


Until today idra had lost 1 ZvZ


But IdrA had commonly said Sen is a great player and it's common knowledge sen has beastly ZvZ. IdrA might have been considered the favorite, but it's hardly an upset.


I'm not trying to say that Idra is far better than Sen but Idra was definitely the favorite. When the favorite loses it's called an upset.
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1345
On May 16 2011 12:52 j4vz wrote:
IdrA didnt punish sen fast enough for that 3rd... thats what happened.

yup....also gave sen more time to get his infestors. That was a very close game. If he attacks earlier he wins I THINK.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1346
On May 16 2011 12:51 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:49 Whole wrote:
Okay, you guys are over analyzing this a little too much. I think IdrA just took a risk and hoped Sen didn't attack. If Sen would've waited about a minute or so to attack, IdrA would've came out ahead b/c he had more upgrades and more Roaches. Sen exploited a timing, no need to fucking flame idra for it.


Who was flaming IdrA on game 3? Ppl just agreed that he got outplayed that game.


someone said "overdroned and lost. typical idra." i could probably find a few other comments like that
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1347
On May 16 2011 12:51 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:47 cca1ss1e wrote:
lol, loved that person who said sen didnt have a chance since idra's "knows ZvZ so much better than sen."

lmao.. ggs.. entertaining.

XD


I still stand behind that fully. In recent games, Idra was 17-1 (now 18-3) in ZvZ..while Sen was an unimpressive 12-7 (now 14-8). The stats don't lie, you can reference what Idra did to Sheth in their recent showmatch for further proof. Sen just had Idra's number today, whether it be from better strategy/preparation, or Idra mentally beating himself..one 2-1 series win isn't nearly enough to convince me otherwise.



Yeah really. IdrA made a big mistake with the supply block, that cost him the game there. Sen wasn't amazingly outclassing him there, if Idra didn't make that mistake (which he normally doesn't) the match is way way closer
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maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1348
Haha! Gretorp brolusting over Inc!
Korean Air, please save Fox.
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1349
On May 16 2011 12:48 Pochtli wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:47 Clog wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 Moonwrath wrote:
Sen just straight up outplayed Idra there


Yeah, IdrA didn't do enough damage with that 2 base push


Idra was in lead after that, he had better roach upgrades and equal bases and infestors, but after that Idra overdroned.


uh..no..idra was not ahead after the failed 2 base push...by the time he pulled back to his base he was down 30 supply and sen had his 3rd fully saturated.

the game was over after that engagement unless sen made a huge mistake. Idra's only chance was to drone and hope sen didnt attack.

he didnt even make any mistakes imo, sen just played really well and landed clutch fungals. Idra hit him with more roaches and +1+1 vs only the +1 ranged from sen.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1350
On May 16 2011 12:52 aurum510 wrote:
I'm surprised people are surprised Sen beat IdrA. Sen even took a game off NesTea, the best ZvZ player in the world hands down in GSL2 (the one NesTea won).


are u sure? i thoguht that wuz 2-0
You know what I'm talking about
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#1351
On May 16 2011 12:52 sc14s wrote:
damnit gretorp that was too homo for my tastes =.=


Why are you being homophobic, there's no need for that anywhere.
Hi.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1352
On May 16 2011 12:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Wow - Sen pulling the upset - gj Sen!

I wouldn't really call it an upset.


Until today idra had lost 1 ZvZ


Except for some names, not the most impressive list of players he has beaten.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1353
Give Sen some credit ffs, he is a beast Zerg and arguably as good as IdrA.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45449 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1354
On May 16 2011 12:52 Pajegetc wrote:
Shouldn't Boxer be #1 in the group since he beat Sen?


He probably doesn't have the best record in the group.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
iLLmatiic
Profile Joined August 2010
64 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1355
I don't know why anyone would have thought that Idra was the favorite going into that if they know enough about the players to have a valid opinion.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1356
On May 16 2011 12:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Wow - Sen pulling the upset - gj Sen!

I wouldn't really call it an upset.


Until today idra had lost 1 ZvZ


He hasn't played many ZvZ's against top players.

Sen is an extremely good player. I'd say they are pretty equal
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1357
On May 16 2011 12:53 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:48 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Wow - Sen pulling the upset - gj Sen!

I wouldn't really call it an upset.


Until today idra had lost 1 ZvZ


Except for some names, not the most impressive list of players he has beaten.

is he supposed to play nestea/dimaga/sen/losira every day?
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1358
On May 16 2011 12:52 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:51 AimForTheBushes wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:47 cca1ss1e wrote:
lol, loved that person who said sen didnt have a chance since idra's "knows ZvZ so much better than sen."

lmao.. ggs.. entertaining.

XD


I still stand behind that fully. In recent games, Idra was 17-1 (now 18-3) in ZvZ..while Sen was an unimpressive 12-7 (now 14-8). The stats don't lie, you can reference what Idra did to Sheth in their recent showmatch for further proof. Sen just had Idra's number today, whether it be from better strategy/preparation, or Idra mentally beating himself..one 2-1 series win isn't nearly enough to convince me otherwise.



Yeah really. IdrA made a big mistake with the supply block, that cost him the game there. Sen wasn't amazingly outclassing him there, if Idra didn't make that mistake (which he normally doesn't) the match is way way closer


Idra's biggest mistake was over-droning the third he went up to 73 drones to sen's 55, if he had 18 more roaches that battle would've been in his favor.
Hi.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1359
On May 16 2011 12:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:52 Pajegetc wrote:
Shouldn't Boxer be #1 in the group since he beat Sen?


He probably doesn't have the best record in the group.


He's 4-1 in the group too along with Idra and Sen.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
May 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1360
Sen wins the game.

Our casters go on to talk about how idra lost the game for 10 mins .

15 seconds of congratulations to Sen.

You guys gotta give the credit where it's due.
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