EPTIf Idra produced one round of Drones and then started pumping Roaches, he would have had a Drone lead, an upgrade lead and he would have more than likely held the push with defenders advantage.
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Daz89
Australia41 Posts
If Idra produced one round of Drones and then started pumping Roaches, he would have had a Drone lead, an upgrade lead and he would have more than likely held the push with defenders advantage. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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Pochtli
Finland690 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:51 FuzzyJAM wrote: He wasn't equal bases and he didn't have infestors after the attack failed. Sen knew Idra was weak after that and did the sensible thing. Idra was fairly screwed whatever he tried; he was close to all in with his attack. It was equal bases (drone transfer just hadn't happened yet), but he was a few drones ahead, and it didn't matter that he didn't have infestors right away after Idra's attack because they popped in time for Sen's attack. What cost him the game was overdroning after his attack and horrible concave with roaches, also he continued to spread creep with overlords after droning hard making Sen's attack much quicker. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:52 d(O.o)a wrote: I'm not trying to say that Idra is far better than Sen but Idra was definitely the favorite. When the favorite loses it's called an upset. Semantic argument maybe, but the term upset is usually only used when it's a legitimate underdog knocking out somebody, not an extremely close match where one person has a sliiiight edge. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:53 Pajegetc wrote: He's 4-1 in the group too along with Idra and Sen. Zenio is also 4-1 | ||
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SKtheAnathema
United States885 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:52 Pajegetc wrote: Shouldn't Boxer be #1 in the group since he beat Sen? in a round robin, first place is highest record and if there's a tie for highest record, first place is the winner of the two when they played each other. therefore sen > idra | ||
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tenkka
United States89 Posts
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote: Idra's biggest mistake was over-droning the third he went up to 73 drones to sen's 55, if he had 18 more roaches that battle would've been in his favor. Gamble that didn't pay off =/= mistake As InC said, he probably thought Sen was going to drone up | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Sen's build was probably better the third game - this is what Idra was afraid of when he talked about Sen having more experience on the KR server, as that fast infestor + fast third combination makes it really hard to hit a good roach timing and even though Idra hit as soon as he was confident to do so, he lost the fight. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:53 Serpico wrote: is he supposed to play nestea/dimaga/sen/losira every day? You're missing the point. Sure he only lost 1 ZvZ, but it was such a small sample size. Idra said himself this is the match that worried him the most. This by no means was an upset. | ||
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nexitustl1
156 Posts
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Frugalicious
United States121 Posts
Idra in the foreigner scene had only played 2 top tier Zergs and that was Morrow and Sen in the GCPL, where Idra did beat Sen. Those statistics are meaningless. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:53 Zannadar wrote: Sen wins the game. Our casters go on to talk about how idra lost the game for 10 mins . 15 seconds of congratulations to Sen. You guys gotta give the credit where it's due. Wanted to comment on this too. Like, Sen went for a fast 3rd and IdrA attacked it, but didn't do enough damage. Game concludes, and InControl goes on about IdrA's mindset and things of that for several minutes. Completely unnecessary. This was not IdrA dropping a game to a scrub while playing terribly. He lost to Sen in a 2-1 series. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
No, he's 3-2. Guys who are 4-1 are, Boxer, Idra, Sen, Socke | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:55 jmbthirteen wrote: You're missing the point. Sure he only lost 1 ZvZ, but it was such a small sample size. Idra said himself this is the match that worried him the most. This by no means was an upset. and the point is when you're playing the best of the best you're NEVER going to have a super high win rate unless you're MC/nestea. Even then nestea doesnt play the best ZvZ players in the world regularly. No player has to play that brutal of a schedule unless you're in an unusually hard group of a tournament. | ||
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tenkka
United States89 Posts
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Gezuz
Sweden306 Posts
Zenio 3-2 and NASL counts match difference meaning that evry game actually matters since evry game you loose give you 1 minus points its a typical system for leagues for tiebrakers | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:57 tenkka wrote: Btw, what happened to the game between Tyler and Painuser? I was afk. walkover, painuser wasnt able to show. | ||
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
On May 16 2011 12:52 Whole wrote: someone said "overdroned and lost. typical idra." i could probably find a few other comments like that People say the same for Ret. It's not really a flame; could even be just construed as disappointment. | ||
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Tracedragon
United States948 Posts
The only win he took off of Sen in this series was with a 9pool spine crawler rush, fyi. | ||
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