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Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1621
I'm glad to be proven wrong about Huk, because I love seeing foreigners in code S, but his play has not been code S material up until this point, and even now he played MMA when MMA was not displaying his greatest level of play. He got an invite straight into code A, and an easy path to code S, and then got rolled in Ro32, has displayed pretty poor play in everything else he's been in since (barring the decent finish in MLG).

This isn't a "he doesn't deserve code S," post, because he won his right back into code S and that's that. My point is that when he finally gets a win, he displays no humility. I don't think he's going to improve enough to advance through code S until his ego deflates a bit.

When it does deflate though, I'm positive he will be a monster. He's progressed in huge bursts since beta, stagnating inbetween each major improvement. Letting some of his ego go is going to be his next big hurdle.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1622
Hehe, they're showing highlight's of NesTea's game 1 against AnyPro. God that game was so much fun to watch. AnyPro got rolled so hard.
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1623
On May 11 2011 14:25 Scila wrote:
Grats to Huk but...

....how the hell are you supposed to know a 4 gate is coming when they hide some gates? Blindly build 3+ bunkers every time?



Count probes, look for proxy pylons.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1624
On May 11 2011 14:28 Tachion wrote:
MMA played ridiculous...when you face someone worse than you you don't play risky -_- Maybe he really was on tilt. His all-in was really poorly timed too. Something was going on.


His timing in g1 was like 15-20 seconds off.. It was bad, but not gamebreaking, and it could very well have worked.

In game 2, what do you think exactly that MMA could have done different from the information he had available? HuK was better today, no doubt in my mind
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
sickra
Profile Joined March 2011
68 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1625
Happy Birthday HUK!
FORCEFIELD CAGE MARAUDER DIE DIE!!!
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1626

On May 11 2011 14:25 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:23 akalarry wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:22 uSnAmplified wrote:
Sad to see MMA not make code S a day before 4 gate nerf haha


4 gate nerf would not have helped mma at all. if anything mma would have been even more greedy and get destroyed even further


i fail to understand your reasoning because mma went ubber greedy that game, 1rax into fact into starport.. doesnt get any greedier than that unless u wanna bc rush off 1 exp


Because people think that Protoss is the only race that can be greedy when expanding, every other race is standard and whatever all-in that beat them should be nerfed
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 05:34:27
May 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#1627
MMA was on a massive tilt after the game against MKP and he clearly didn't prepare at all for a TvP, his builds were not refined, his execution was poor. And Huk played pretty well, he totally deserve his code s spot even if i think MMA is a better player overall.

Edit: MMA's build in game 2 was really bad 1/1/1 after a 1rax expand without knowing what your opponent is doing, it's a massive gamble and he paid for it.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1628
On May 11 2011 14:31 partisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:25 Scila wrote:
Grats to Huk but...

....how the hell are you supposed to know a 4 gate is coming when they hide some gates? Blindly build 3+ bunkers every time?



Count probes, look for proxy pylons.

Nexus energy is the other one.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1629
On May 11 2011 14:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Hehe, they're showing highlight's of NesTea's game 1 against AnyPro. God that game was so much fun to watch. AnyPro got rolled so hard.

I don't think I'll ever forget about that game! Was very entertaining.
nAgeDitto
Profile Joined April 2011
United States428 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1630
On May 11 2011 14:31 partisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:25 Scila wrote:
Grats to Huk but...

....how the hell are you supposed to know a 4 gate is coming when they hide some gates? Blindly build 3+ bunkers every time?



Count probes, look for proxy pylons.


like naniwa. He checks for proxy stuff like its his bane.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1631
On May 11 2011 14:30 MajorityofOne wrote:
So, all Zerg group. Which will we see more of, baneling wins or roach wins?

Roach... arnt most people now going straight roach and skipping banes all together?

i dont play zerg so i am only going off what i see in tournys, i could be wrong
No Artosis, you are robin
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1632
On May 11 2011 14:23 corpsepose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:22 EnderCraft wrote:
HuK knew he had to cheese in this group...


yea dude that 1 gate expand in the first game was so cheesy
man you guys will do anything to detract from huks achievements


+1

wtf is wrong with cheesy play anyway ? unless its an scvs all in i dont see anything wrong with cheesy play
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1633
RT: fuck you Huk!
Polt was right about luck
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1634
On May 11 2011 14:30 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:28 GertHeart wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:26 MUFFINS1 wrote:
MMA is probably the 3rd best terran in the world right now yet he chokes in an easy up and down group


Bro you must not know much about SC2 and the Korean Scene, Huk had one of the hardest groups. Do some research before you speak.

Umm there was only Marine king and MMA himself

MMA who has shown a spectacular TvT showing in the past compared to marineking's relatively low success recently with his bio should have been an easy killing

Huk to be honest is not code S material and if you have been doing your research you would know that MMA has a very solid TvP


MMA has not shown solid tvp other than beating mc ONCE, and beating code a tosses
giuocob
Profile Joined July 2010
United States149 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1635
On May 11 2011 14:25 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:24 rauk wrote:
:/ omg mma why greedy with the 1rax CC fac



Do you not see the irony in this? Huk 1 gate expand holds off a well microed all-in.

MMA 1 rax expand gets destroyed in <20 seconds by a sentry heavy 4 gate.

Huk 1 gate expands, then goes for 2 more gateways immediately because he understands that you actually need more than 8 army supply to hold off a rush. He quickly adds gates 4 and 5 as he realizes what is happening.

MMA 1 rax expands, makes minimal efforts to scout what Huk was doing (pretty suer he never scanned so the proxy warpgates made no difference at all), then immediately throws down a factory, researches siege mode and goes for a starport as well. All while making marines out of a single barracks.

See any differences there?
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1636
On May 11 2011 14:28 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:25 TT1 wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:23 akalarry wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:22 uSnAmplified wrote:
Sad to see MMA not make code S a day before 4 gate nerf haha


4 gate nerf would not have helped mma at all. if anything mma would have been even more greedy and get destroyed even further


i fail to understand your reasoning because mma went ubber greedy that game, 1rax into fact into starport.. doesnt get any greedier than that unless u wanna bc rush off 1 exp


lol.. that build isn't greedy? Haha

Actually, the 111-build was the opening he used in game 1 to 1base all-in.. Not exactly greedy, mr. Einstein


its greedy when u expo than tech. and stay on what, 1 rax?
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1637
I really hope that TheWind will stay. Forever Code S :D
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 11 2011 05:32 GMT
#1638
On May 11 2011 14:28 Tachion wrote:
MMA played ridiculous...when you face someone worse than you you don't play risky -_- Maybe he really was on tilt. His all-in was really poorly timed too. Something was going on.



Huk was picked last, I believe, in the last group selections. So the Koreans obviously have a high regard for his ability.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
May 11 2011 05:33 GMT
#1639
lol only Huk would do a ceremony after an up and down match. he'll find his way to Code A eventually
Team SCV Life #1
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
May 11 2011 05:33 GMT
#1640
On May 11 2011 14:28 Tachion wrote:
MMA played ridiculous...when you face someone worse than you you don't play risky -_- Maybe he really was on tilt. His all-in was really poorly timed too. Something was going on.


but how would you know whos better than who 8D, are you a GM player on korea that ladders vs these players all day long?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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