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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 21 2011 17:11 GMT
#1581
On May 22 2011 02:04 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:00 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:20 alan25 wrote:
how did naninawa lose

Morrow went Zergling/Bling/Infestor/Ultra. Nani didn't focus overlords and his ball got broken.
Game 2 morrow Denied his 3rd for like 2 minutes and Nani got out macroed.

Watch the game again, Nani focused overlords, he manage to snipe 3 out of 4 Overlords with banes one fight. Nani just couldn't keep up with the Nuerals/Fungals though and ended up slowly dieing.

2nd Game Nani just didn't have any idea how to handle Morrows new play style, he got out-macro-d, but not by choice, Morrow just had him pinned the entire game, the one time Nani moved out he lost every single probe to a ton of lings, there was no way Nani could ever leave enough behind to push Morrow and save his probes.


Show nested quote +
Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

Thought Morrow expressed the opposite in a recent interview, saying he has a new outlook on the match up..

I can not watch the game right now (stupid Jtv) I thought that when Morrow went for the main entrance (which was walled of) Nani pushed through the bottom and then overlord drops killed his army.

After that Nani adapted(because he is amazing in BOX series) and started focusing overlords.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
May 21 2011 17:18 GMT
#1582
On May 22 2011 02:06 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:01 diverzee wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:40 Lylat wrote:
Damn I hope Morrow will win.. He's better player overall imo, Lalush was a bit lucky with the draw since he didnt have to face a terran (except in group stages where he lost) plus Thorzain wasnt there :/


Morrow has expressed an opinion that at the current state of the game TvZ might slightly favour zerg. Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

I remember him saying so before but TLO(?) i think said that Morrow is now comfortable with ZvP.




To translate what Morrow said about ZvP in this interview (given right after Morrow advanced from the WCG qualifiers a few hours ago) he says since 2 weeks ago he has been practicing a new style vs protoss which basically incorporates every unit in the zerg arsenal. In particular lots of zerglings early game, as well as infestors and baneling drops. He says he doesn't feel comfortable with the style, and that he still has to learn its timings and understand it completely. It focuses less on having en economic advantage than the classic roach hydra corruptor style. The reason why he has been so succesful is because protoss players aren't used to this new style, and in particular are bad at defending several locations at the same time.

Morrow says that protoss has an advantage vs zerg, and in the end of the interview, upon being asked how he feels about zvz vs Lalush, Morrow jokingly says "I should pick protoss instead and just 4gate him".
Parting
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#1583
On May 22 2011 02:11 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:04 Dommk wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:00 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:20 alan25 wrote:
how did naninawa lose

Morrow went Zergling/Bling/Infestor/Ultra. Nani didn't focus overlords and his ball got broken.
Game 2 morrow Denied his 3rd for like 2 minutes and Nani got out macroed.

Watch the game again, Nani focused overlords, he manage to snipe 3 out of 4 Overlords with banes one fight. Nani just couldn't keep up with the Nuerals/Fungals though and ended up slowly dieing.

2nd Game Nani just didn't have any idea how to handle Morrows new play style, he got out-macro-d, but not by choice, Morrow just had him pinned the entire game, the one time Nani moved out he lost every single probe to a ton of lings, there was no way Nani could ever leave enough behind to push Morrow and save his probes.


Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

Thought Morrow expressed the opposite in a recent interview, saying he has a new outlook on the match up..

I can not watch the game right now (stupid Jtv) I thought that when Morrow went for the main entrance (which was walled of) Nani pushed through the bottom and then overlord drops killed his army.

After that Nani adapted(because he is amazing in BOX series) and started focusing overlords.


Oh, the game was over at that point, he didn't have the stalker count to shoot down the Overlords, they blinked, got an overlrod then got trapped by lings.

On May 22 2011 02:10 diverzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:06 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:01 diverzee wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:40 Lylat wrote:
Damn I hope Morrow will win.. He's better player overall imo, Lalush was a bit lucky with the draw since he didnt have to face a terran (except in group stages where he lost) plus Thorzain wasnt there :/


Morrow has expressed an opinion that at the current state of the game TvZ might slightly favour zerg. Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

I remember him saying so before but TLO(?) i think said that Morrow is now comfortable with ZvP.


TLO was the one saying Morrow is very comfortable in ZvT. As for ZvP Morrow is not at all comfortable, in this interview (in Swedish) from just a few hours ago Morrow says he thinks ZvP is protoss favoured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5_Uw6ZhDrk0


This post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221495&currentpage=46#908

Says different...
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#1584
how many seeds does sweden have ???
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 21 2011 17:21 GMT
#1585
These guys fill in downtime better than Tastosis.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 17:25:55
May 21 2011 17:25 GMT
#1586
Morrows new ZvP is interesting, it was clear that naniwa didn't know how to play against it. Now the ball is in the protoss court again, while this style of zerg will have it's 15 min in the spotlight.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Zedex
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom310 Posts
May 21 2011 17:30 GMT
#1587
Great cast today, would love it if TLO came back to cast the dreamhack summer.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
May 21 2011 17:32 GMT
#1588
all i know that dreamhack summer will be AWESOME
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
May 21 2011 17:34 GMT
#1589
I'm watching the Vods now and laughing my ass off.
This is pure comedy gold. 2GD is hysterical.

They manage to make the in-between games part more entertaining than the games.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
May 21 2011 17:38 GMT
#1590
On May 22 2011 02:20 CoR wrote:
how many seeds does sweden have ???


2
what ?
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
May 21 2011 17:53 GMT
#1591
A lot of people hate lalush for being bm, but he is quite good really.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 18:01:19
May 21 2011 18:00 GMT
#1592
So much funny moments in this cast, everyone should watch the vods on justin.tv to get all the jokes.

This made me spit my drink, about the decoration behind the casters and the producer.

"He also did the NASL, the original version!"
I am not young enough to know everything.
mazqo
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland368 Posts
May 21 2011 18:06 GMT
#1593
infestor use and hive tech use has broken the zvp matchup, you will see nerf coming soon after zerg wins mlg and dreamhack
Proteus1983
Profile Joined July 2010
France15 Posts
May 21 2011 19:33 GMT
#1594
Where vod can be found, please?
Proxyles
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden27 Posts
May 21 2011 20:29 GMT
#1595
On May 22 2011 04:33 Proteus1983 wrote:
Where vod can be found, please?

http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv/b/286348767
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 21 2011 21:32 GMT
#1596
The most fun I have had watching a tournament in a long time.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
May 21 2011 21:40 GMT
#1597
I sure hope 2GD will host DH summer!
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 21 2011 21:43 GMT
#1598
where are all the results?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 21:58:29
May 21 2011 21:55 GMT
#1599
On May 22 2011 02:20 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:11 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:04 Dommk wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:00 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:20 alan25 wrote:
how did naninawa lose

Morrow went Zergling/Bling/Infestor/Ultra. Nani didn't focus overlords and his ball got broken.
Game 2 morrow Denied his 3rd for like 2 minutes and Nani got out macroed.

Watch the game again, Nani focused overlords, he manage to snipe 3 out of 4 Overlords with banes one fight. Nani just couldn't keep up with the Nuerals/Fungals though and ended up slowly dieing.

2nd Game Nani just didn't have any idea how to handle Morrows new play style, he got out-macro-d, but not by choice, Morrow just had him pinned the entire game, the one time Nani moved out he lost every single probe to a ton of lings, there was no way Nani could ever leave enough behind to push Morrow and save his probes.


Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

Thought Morrow expressed the opposite in a recent interview, saying he has a new outlook on the match up..

I can not watch the game right now (stupid Jtv) I thought that when Morrow went for the main entrance (which was walled of) Nani pushed through the bottom and then overlord drops killed his army.

After that Nani adapted(because he is amazing in BOX series) and started focusing overlords.


Oh, the game was over at that point, he didn't have the stalker count to shoot down the Overlords, they blinked, got an overlrod then got trapped by lings.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 02:10 diverzee wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:06 Eppa! wrote:
On May 22 2011 02:01 diverzee wrote:
On May 22 2011 01:40 Lylat wrote:
Damn I hope Morrow will win.. He's better player overall imo, Lalush was a bit lucky with the draw since he didnt have to face a terran (except in group stages where he lost) plus Thorzain wasnt there :/


Morrow has expressed an opinion that at the current state of the game TvZ might slightly favour zerg. Also, both Lalush and Morrow believe protoss has the advantage vs zerg.

I remember him saying so before but TLO(?) i think said that Morrow is now comfortable with ZvP.


TLO was the one saying Morrow is very comfortable in ZvT. As for ZvP Morrow is not at all comfortable, in this interview (in Swedish) from just a few hours ago Morrow says he thinks ZvP is protoss favoured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5_Uw6ZhDrk0


This post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221495&currentpage=46#908

Says different...

He definitely says, among other things, that protoss is still the better race currently and that the new style may only be working because protoss players are bad at handling multipronged attacks and just aren't used to the build
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 04:29:30
May 22 2011 04:28 GMT
#1600
On May 22 2011 02:34 TheBanana wrote:
I'm watching the Vods now and laughing my ass off.
This is pure comedy gold. 2GD is hysterical.

They manage to make the in-between games part more entertaining than the games.

So amazing. Fucking hilarious how good that banter was.

I don't even give a shit that 2DG doesn't know anything about the players or the game, he's just naturally funny and entertaining.

Get that guy for any show/steam/event and I'll watch it.
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