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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1461
When you see those games you understand why sC does what he does
That's strange, I know players have evolved but this Jinro seems so far from the Gorinro he was in his clash of the titans vs Idra for instance
I'm sad, I'm a fanboy of no one usually but Jinro made me a fanboy of him.
I BELIEVE.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1462
Zenio at east jinro north
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1463
what zenio did was much better than spanishiwa's build, because zenio gets mutas. spanishiwa wouldve been rolled by drops from jinro

mutas are a must for high level play for a standard game
SebaZ
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy223 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1464
On May 09 2011 20:42 Pwnographics wrote:
Jinro's kinda mentally screwed though. Lost 3 games in a row.

I think he's been "mentally screwed" for a few months now. Basically since he lost in the ro16 in the last GSL.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1465
On May 09 2011 20:43 Misoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:41 soulpoetry wrote:
passive play against zerg will eventually get you rolled.



And yet aggressive play will get you vilified by a large portion of TL.

We T's can't win.


You realize there's a happy medium between reaper-bunker rushing and not sending a marine out, right?
Lanaia is love.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1466
On May 09 2011 20:43 Beyonder wrote:
Well, this is the start of the TvZ revolution. Drops are not going to be very effective anymore versus good zergs, early harass wont work that well unless you really go for it (see game1). It will be timing pushes with marine/tank/medivac and if they get crushed you get infinitely behind. Feels like the BW matchup ^_^ and mvp will be the best for this


Revolution?

TvZ has been the most balanced and entertaining matchup for months now.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1467
That was surprisingly well played by Zenio, I didn't expect much from him. Jinro, meanwhile, looks like he wants to go and hide in a dark hole where nobody can find him.
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1468
im feeling sorry about jinro
but the games a great from the zerg perspective
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1469
On May 09 2011 20:43 Beyonder wrote:
Well, this is the start of the TvZ revolution. Drops are not going to be very effective anymore versus good zergs, early harass wont work that well unless you really go for it (see game1). It will be timing pushes with marine/tank/medivac and if they get crushed you get infinitely behind. Feels like the BW matchup ^_^ and mvp will be the best for this


How is it anything like BW? In BW terrans could play a full macro game vs Zerg and turtle really hard with Siege Tanks...in SC2 you pretty much HAVE TO put on pressure 24/7.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1470
On May 09 2011 20:43 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Is jinro allergic to marauders or something?

Are you kidding me? How can he tech switch to marauders when he's under heavy pressure from the zerg with muta-ling?

At that point in the game it wouldn't even matter. If you make vikings the zerg just makes ultras. You make marauders? they make brood lords and infestors. Late-game zerg tech switches are insane!


In general, also vs coca . Marine tank doenst counter roaches like that , yet he still does the same...
KCCO!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1471
On May 09 2011 20:43 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:41 aderum wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:40 Tobberoth wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:39 Novalisk wrote:
This is identical to Spanishiwa's style except with better macro and mutalisks

Yup, korean execution of Spanishiwas style, there's NO doubt Zenio has studied it specifically.



Lol, theres NO doubt? You dont think that korean pros can figure out that strat too?

It would be quite surprising that after 1 year of the game being out, a player comes up with a strategy and 1 month or less later, a korean comes up with more or less the identical strategy.

yea its as unbelievable as discovering that marines can be microed 8 months after the game comes out and discovering proxy sunkens 8 months after that.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
caster0123
Profile Joined October 2010
324 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1472
zenio played an amazing game btw
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 11:46:57
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1473
Isn't there a super tournament next month, which has code A and S competing at the same level? Jinro might still go down to Code A, but it's not an issue yet then.

And meh, can't terrans beat zergs anymore without bunker rushes? It's odd how that still happens, when bunkers continuously get weaker every patch.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
May 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#1474
GSL is so fucking good, production value and all. Even if there were no foreginers in GSL for the next 3 years I'd stick to it harder than I stick to girls in miniskirts at the subway.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1475
On May 09 2011 20:43 Beyonder wrote:
Well, this is the start of the TvZ revolution. Drops are not going to be very effective anymore versus good zergs, early harass wont work that well unless you really go for it (see game1). It will be timing pushes with marine/tank/medivac and if they get crushed you get infinitely behind. Feels like the BW matchup ^_^ and mvp will be the best for this


I just think Jinro puts himself in a very bad position for the macro game. He opens up with cheese, I would like to see some more macro oriented builds.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1476
On May 09 2011 20:42 Shiru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:40 Brandish wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:40 spaZzNx-` wrote:
jinros in such a slump lol

Liquid Slump
Everyone on the team hasn't been winning much


I have to agree with this.. If HuK can't stay on Code S then they might as well pull out of the oGs House and compete in NA


lol hate to say that but huk chanses are so much less than Jinros and Jinro is almost in code A 1 map to go : (
DeMusliM !!!
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 11:45:47
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1477
Jinro is just going to have to buckle down and re-evaluate his sc2 career. I don't think hes going to quit or anything but his play has clearly regressed (or everyone has gotten better). I think he can certainly come back but it's going to be an uphill battle with the scene constantly getting more competitive.

Jinro is still going to be eligible for the super tournament next month don't forget that.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 11:46:08
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1478
On May 09 2011 20:42 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 20:39 KiNGxXx wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:38 0ne wrote:
gg

Stop with the premature "gg". Some people can't watch the games and are only reading here.

That wasnt premature lol

Yes it was. It's over when Jinro types "gg" and not when you're thinking it's over. You can write "Jinro looks dead now" or something but not only "gg".
As I said it's a LR thread and some people can't see the game.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1479
Jinro going for 2 rax at his natural choke. rallied to the 9 o clock. Zenio hatches first and pools after that.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#1480
Floating 1.3k gas :/ Why not make some ghosts or something.
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