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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14111 Posts
July 02 2011 19:49 GMT
#4801
Ug I totaly understand but they could have at least had the 2 guys there talking about what happened in the game for 10 to 20 minutes. Still they did the best they could have in the situation
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 02 2011 19:49 GMT
#4802
I'm glad Mouse won. I think they are more deserving to be in the finals, though both teams are obviously great.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 02 2011 19:49 GMT
#4803
On July 03 2011 04:48 city42 wrote:
There was very little risk. Morrow plays the exact same way every game, and even if the VRs didn't end the game, there's almost chance they would die. At worst, they'd offer total map control and most likely deny morrow a third base.

No, if scouted, it is easily defendable and completely negated.
Yes it was a calculated risk, but a risk nonetheless as he relied on Morrow not scouting that part of his base.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 19:51:15
July 02 2011 19:50 GMT
#4804
On July 03 2011 04:48 city42 wrote:
There was very little risk. Morrow plays the exact same way every game, and even if the VRs didn't end the game, there's almost chance they would die. At worst, they'd offer total map control and most likely deny morrow a third base.


Morrow already has this third. If it was scouted his third would remain intact. The best it would have done is give him some map control but a massive disadvantage in both army and eco. It was a huge risk. That's why you see most Protosses go for 1 stargate and only go 1/2 voids. Far less riskier and can still do some damage even if scouted.

It was still smart though. Morrow is very greedy and even after scouting zero tech in the main base he still continued to be greedy instead of playing to Miniguns like of 2 base pressure builds.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
July 02 2011 19:50 GMT
#4805
On July 03 2011 04:49 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:48 city42 wrote:
There was very little risk. Morrow plays the exact same way every game, and even if the VRs didn't end the game, there's almost chance they would die. At worst, they'd offer total map control and most likely deny morrow a third base.

No, if scouted, it is easily defendable and completely negated.
Yes it was a calculated risk, but a risk nonetheless as he relied on Morrow not scouting that part of his base.

indeed. he already had evoloution chambers, if he scouted it in time he could just throw down some spores and be a-ok
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#4806
Wait what happened to the 3rd game?
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 19:53:14
July 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#4807
im just supposed to put an overlord between our main bases so i scout it flying towards me then i can stop it, but i forgot to put an overlord there )

this 2stargate is no real counter, its just a cheese and all builds has their weaknesses if u dont scout what u want or do no mistakes

tal darim (3rd game) was a 6pool fail (didnt do any damage) into macro game
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 19:54:03
July 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#4808
On July 03 2011 04:50 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:48 city42 wrote:
There was very little risk. Morrow plays the exact same way every game, and even if the VRs didn't end the game, there's almost chance they would die. At worst, they'd offer total map control and most likely deny morrow a third base.


Morrow already has this third. If it was scouted his third would remain intact. The best it would have done is give him some map control but a massive disadvantage in both army and eco. It was a huge risk. That's why you see most Protosses go for 1 stargate and only go 1/2 voids. Far less riskier and can still do some damage even if scouted.

Most protosses aren't playing against morrow. Morrow was the one taking the risk, by playing the same way and not expecting his opponent to adapt.

edit: this isn't a morrow bash at all, he is a fantastic player and his zvp has improved by leaps and bounds lately.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
July 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#4809
rofl wtf... no game 3? Thats retarded after been watching from the start rofl. Not blaming organisation though, not their fault b.net messes up, just a bit sad. Imagine third game would have been quite epic.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#4810
Wow. That sucks. Bit of a deflating way to end the game. I'm still surprised COL managed to stage such a come back. I left before the final Hasu-Minigun game. I was expecting Hasu to take it and have Mouz win 3-0. COL's 2v2 is sick, so I guess their come back is to be expected once they take a single 1v1 game.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 19:53:20
July 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#4811
But morrow takes the bigger risk by rushing to an expand and 70 drones with upgrades and no units, especially when he has no scouting intel at all...
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busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
July 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#4812
On July 03 2011 04:51 MorroW wrote:
im just supposed to put an overlord between our main bases so i scout it flying towards me then i can stop it, but i forgot to put an overlord there )

tal darim was a 6pool fail (didnt do any damage) into macro game

lol really? aw man would've loved to see that

1:30 is that in 40 minutes?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#4813
On July 03 2011 04:51 Shalaiyn wrote:
Wait what happened to the 3rd game?

Some weird stuff happen. Neither of the 2 players were able to save the replays and the replay was not auto saved too. So they don't have replay for game 3 just the result that Morrow won.
Terran
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#4814
On July 03 2011 04:52 Beyonder wrote:
But morrow takes the bigger risk by rushing to an expand and 70 drones with upgrades and no units...


Ya they both did risky builds, so the result wasn't too surprising.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 02 2011 19:53 GMT
#4815
On July 03 2011 04:51 MorroW wrote:
im just supposed to put an overlord between our main bases so i scout it flying towards me then i can stop it, but i forgot to put an overlord there )

tal darim (3rd game) was a 6pool fail (didnt do any damage) into macro game

wtf failed 6 pool into winning a macro game? sounds tense, I want to see that T_T
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
July 02 2011 19:53 GMT
#4816
On July 03 2011 04:51 MorroW wrote:
im just supposed to put an overlord between our main bases so i scout it flying towards me then i can stop it, but i forgot to put an overlord there )

tal darim (3rd game) was a 6pool fail (didnt do any damage) into macro game


you killed like 4-5 probes which is pretty significant :/, It pretty much equalized the game.
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 02 2011 19:54 GMT
#4817
Haha both players discussing the game here.

WP guys!
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 02 2011 19:54 GMT
#4818
I don't get it, no replay should mean no game. They should have had to replay it.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
July 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#4819
Lol game 3 sounds kinda cool ;D
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#4820
On July 03 2011 04:53 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:51 MorroW wrote:
im just supposed to put an overlord between our main bases so i scout it flying towards me then i can stop it, but i forgot to put an overlord there )

tal darim (3rd game) was a 6pool fail (didnt do any damage) into macro game

wtf failed 6 pool into winning a macro game? sounds tense, I want to see that T_T


6 pool on Tal`Darim isn't an all in, but you're way behind with no damage.

And thanks for the infos Morrow & Minigun! Sucks that Bnet decided to fail.
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