• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:42
CET 18:42
KST 02:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced12[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
Information Request Regarding Chinese Ladder BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1469 users

[TSL] Ro4 Day 1 - Page 39

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 109 Next
On twitter? Let us know what you think with #tsl3 ! Help spread the word about today's amazing TvT!
Fu[G]u
Profile Joined August 2010
United States187 Posts
May 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#761
Haha how quickly we forget... you do realize that Thorzain just got done dismantling MC, an infinitely more accomplished GSL player than Bomber, right?


Yes, thorzains tvp is clearly top level, and can beat even the best korean protosses. However, his tvt is not nearly on the level of MVP or bomber. Kas is just not very impressive, and Bomber is on a completely other level.
Unnamed
Profile Joined December 2010
148 Posts
May 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#762
Kas IMO didn't show his best play, maybe he was nervous, while Thorzain looks well prepared to Kas' style.
strexer
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States54 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#763
I wish that Chill and DJwheat would identify the real reason for Thorzain winning. Thorzain just has better macro than Kas.
grigorin
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria275 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#764
finally i also get some ads ^^
Turntablez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden73 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#765
I guess Thorzain trained hard past weeks considering he got torn apart by an terran Master Leauge player on the "Road to Korea" tournament, or its just a "setup series".
Kas TvT is sick, and this is... not even close?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mpupu
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina183 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#766
Thorzan is playing phenomenally well, but I can't help thinking Kas lost a lot of confidence after his loss to MC.
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#767
On May 08 2011 03:56 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:53 NowLookHere wrote:
On May 08 2011 03:51 Fu[G]u wrote:
Are you kidding me? Game 1 was an incredible game, and frankly Thorzain would destroy either MVP or Bomber the way he played in that game.


Are YOU kidding me? Bomber is a freaking beast. Thorzain is really good dont get me wrong but bomber with his 400 sc2 apm would not get picked apart the way Kas is. I daresay he would do the picking apart, even of thorzain.


Haha how quickly we forget... you do realize that Thorzain just got done dismantling MC, an infinitely more accomplished GSL player than Bomber, right?


Can we stop trying to make SC2 a math equation? You can't just say that MC > Bomber, and Thorzain beat MC, therefore he will absolutely beat Bomber. Thorzain is really good, and he probably could play a good series against Bomber, but there's absolutely no way you can make it that simple.

Would love to see them play, though :-p


Haha you're the only one making a math equation out of this mate.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#768
On May 08 2011 03:53 NowLookHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:51 Fu[G]u wrote:
Are you kidding me? Game 1 was an incredible game, and frankly Thorzain would destroy either MVP or Bomber the way he played in that game.


Are YOU kidding me? Bomber is a freaking beast. Thorzain is really good dont get me wrong but bomber with his 400 sc2 apm would not get picked apart the way Kas is. I daresay he would do the picking apart, even of thorzain.


Haha how quickly we forget... you do realize that Thorzain just got done dismantling MC, an infinitely more accomplished GSL player than Bomber, right?


To be fair to Bomber he beat MVP who is a two-time gsl champion and was known for his strong tvt. I don't know who would win between Bomber and Thorzain, but i bet it'd be a great match to watch!
The spice must flow
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#769
On May 08 2011 03:54 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:53 NowLookHere wrote:
On May 08 2011 03:51 Fu[G]u wrote:
Are you kidding me? Game 1 was an incredible game, and frankly Thorzain would destroy either MVP or Bomber the way he played in that game.


Are YOU kidding me? Bomber is a freaking beast. Thorzain is really good dont get me wrong but bomber with his 400 sc2 apm would not get picked apart the way Kas is. I daresay he would do the picking apart, even of thorzain.


Haha how quickly we forget... you do realize that Thorzain just got done dismantling MC, an infinitely more accomplished GSL player than Bomber, right?


Bomber beat MVP far more convincingly than Thorzain beat MC

===

Dunno if Kas is nervous or what, but he really is playing badly. Kind of disappointing so far.


Dont know what is the point of comparing GSL results to an online tournament where its obvious the koreans werent playing to their full ability, i really doubt thorzain could beat mc , mvp , or bomber in gsl.(not only because of no lag, but because he has much less experience at a big live stage)
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#770
well lots of people watched for Husky/day9/koreans, there are a lot of really casual people that ONLY watch day9/husky stuff
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Spacemanspiff
Profile Joined September 2010
United States116 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#771
On May 08 2011 03:56 HolydaKing wrote:
since the fan favourites are already out, the TSL viewer figure dropped quite a bit. Expected more people to tune in today, but it seems like many people are not really interested in watching those 2 players. must say i'm a bit disappointed by Kas until now, hoping he'll turn it or atleast win some maps.

Good thing TSL seems to be making more fan favorites then.
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#772
I think Kas is surprised. He's always been a dominate force in TvT, and he probably expected ThorZain to practice like crazy but not to see this kind of style in his TvT and it's catching him off guard. While I love ThorZain, Kas' TvT has proved to be pretty versatile in the past, we could easily see him swing this back as it is a Bo7 and perhaps Kas' stability in the matchup (75% vs TvT?) will put him ahead as the series progresses.

Intense shit, love the mindgames and styles.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#773
On May 08 2011 03:56 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:53 NowLookHere wrote:
On May 08 2011 03:51 Fu[G]u wrote:
Are you kidding me? Game 1 was an incredible game, and frankly Thorzain would destroy either MVP or Bomber the way he played in that game.


Are YOU kidding me? Bomber is a freaking beast. Thorzain is really good dont get me wrong but bomber with his 400 sc2 apm would not get picked apart the way Kas is. I daresay he would do the picking apart, even of thorzain.


Haha how quickly we forget... you do realize that Thorzain just got done dismantling MC, an infinitely more accomplished GSL player than Bomber, right?


Can we stop trying to make SC2 a math equation? You can't just say that MC > Bomber, and Thorzain beat MC, therefore he will absolutely beat Bomber. Thorzain is really good, and he probably could play a good series against Bomber, but there's absolutely no way you can make it that simple.

Would love to see them play, though :-p

I'd give Thorzain a 15% chance against Bomber just because he prepares very well, if they randomly met up for a bo7 it would be 100% a 4-0 sweep by Bomber.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2001 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#774
Kas will turn this around.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
brian2sk8t
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States192 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#775
I have a feeling that Thorzain did his homework for this matchup and Kas didnt at all.
Wasting time is such a waste of time
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#776
On May 08 2011 03:55 Mailing wrote:
The only sad thing is that we go from a tvt to a pvp ;(


I'm watching Starcraft today and doing a 16-mile hike tomorrow. Fuck PvP, I'll be back for the finals to watch Thorzain facepunch someone.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#777
On May 08 2011 03:55 loveeholicce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 03:53 maartendq wrote:
On May 08 2011 03:52 Ariovist wrote:
Pretty bad observing today T.T

Agreed... They're missing a lot. I just keep an eye on the minimap all the time.


Can you name anything hotbid has missed?

Start of banshee harras, marines going into Kas´s base. He got it eventually but like 7 seconds late. But otherwise doing awesome job, maybe even better than GSL observer.
Just another gold Protoss...
Rain.cz
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic227 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#778
4:0, go!
I'm in Golden league, don't take my opinions seriously
42x10
Profile Joined February 2011
United States62 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#779
I don't think these matches are showing us Kas choking, rather they're showing us just how fucking AMAZING thorzain is. I'm definitely a fan now.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#780
Match 3:TSL`Metalopolis (Crossmap Spawns Only)
[image loading] (T)Kas 0 vs 2 [image loading] (T)ThorZaIN

(T)Kas spawns as the Red Terran @6
(T)ThorZaIN spawns as the Blue Terran @9

Close air positions.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
3D!Clan Event
14:00
3D!COMMUNITY OLD SCHOOL 2X2 3
3DClanTV 54
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Clem_sc2 1031
mouzHeroMarine 461
Livibee 65
Codebar 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4247
Rain 1936
Larva 769
firebathero 373
Shuttle 303
Hyun 140
hero 134
LaStScan 119
Mong 53
sas.Sziky 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8343
singsing3011
syndereN279
XcaliburYe235
Counter-Strike
fl0m5271
zeus1299
allub116
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor549
Liquid`Hasu359
Other Games
FrodaN2983
Fuzer 278
Hui .146
ArmadaUGS123
QueenE54
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1929
gamesdonequick859
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream89
Other Games
BasetradeTV57
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV528
• Ler108
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling137
Other Games
• Shiphtur135
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
2h 18m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
6h 18m
Wardi Open
18h 18m
Monday Night Weeklies
23h 18m
StarCraft2.fi
23h 18m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Wardi Open
1d 18h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 23h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-28
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.