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On May 07 2011 12:55 Engore wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:51 dtz wrote:On May 07 2011 12:49 Juvant wrote:
Nani is much humbler in this interview than he was at MLG. Makes my dislike of him dissipate a bit. Was he arrogant at MLG? I think the "ehh it was ok" was a product of being interviewed live after such a long day in a foreign country in a language you are not familiar with. Pretty sure it was not like " that was easy i expected it" but more like " i don't know what to say" Also to kind of expand on your point, his attitude at MLG in the interview i believe was linked to a tradition in his native land. Its taught for them to never make a big deal of their accomplishments. Wish i could remember the name of it but sadly i can't.
Yes, its called the Jantelagen or the Jante Law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law
And it is "a pattern of group behaviour towards individuals within Scandinavian communities, which negatively portrays and criticizes individual success and achievement as unworthy and inappropriate", to quote Wikipedia.
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Sweet, thats the OP done. Any problems anybody can see?
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Good games tonite, even if no Haypro/NaDa that just means I can freely watch Proleague
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On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that
afaik NASL offers walkover to the opponent if 1 guy doesnt show up so July took the walkover against white RA and Haypro didnt as theyre sort of in the same team.
Your anger is quite amusing thou
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On May 07 2011 12:56 Samhax wrote:
I have one question, does the feedback stop neural parasite?
No, they use the energy once the neural is casted. If they have enough energy to be feedback'd into dying then yes, it stops it. :p
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On May 07 2011 12:57 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:53 sang wrote:
very classy move by NASL and haypro allowing NaDa to focus his efforts on GSL. Well played. Not classy at all, considering that they didn't give the same courtesy to White-Ra and Naniwa. And I know, "it's up to the opponent", blablabla, but in essence it's really up to NASL since they make the rules (and enforce them).
It's up to their opponent to either take the Walkover or reschedule. Everyone so far as decided to take the walkover. Haypro decided to reschedule probably because he's a super manner boss and Team Liquid and oGs share a team house.
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On May 07 2011 12:55 Engore wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:51 dtz wrote:On May 07 2011 12:49 Juvant wrote:
Nani is much humbler in this interview than he was at MLG. Makes my dislike of him dissipate a bit. Was he arrogant at MLG? I think the "ehh it was ok" was a product of being interviewed live after such a long day in a foreign country in a language you are not familiar with. Pretty sure it was not like " that was easy i expected it" but more like " i don't know what to say" Also to kind of expand on your point, his attitude at MLG in the interview i believe was linked to a tradition in his native land. Its taught for them to never make a big deal of their accomplishments. Wish i could remember the name of it but sadly i can't.
It's called the "jante law", but honestly it's more about that you shouldn't act like you're mightier than anyone else towards your fellow swedes. Scandinavians love to talk about their accomplishments with foreigners. Just look at any thread that discuss nationality of players, amount of players in that league, etc.
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On May 07 2011 12:48 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:47 Sigh wrote:
Naniwa soo good. Never thought of cancelling cybo
Nada next!!! Really? =/ Anyway, it was a g.g. imo. I still don't know if I would recommend a 7pool, but I think most people are recommending it because it shows HOW to hold off a 7pool.
Can someone please tell me how he held the 7 pool off?
Were the lings in his base b4 he scouted the pool?
Reaction?
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Final random NASL-related comment of the night:
- I really enjoy being able to watch without perpetual lag. I'm new to watching SC2 (relatively - got hooked), and I was a little put off in the beginning. Good job guys for listening to your viewers.
- In the same vein, I like the fact that Gretorp is much less nervous and tongue-tied, if you will. He's found his niche in casting, or so it seems, and now I actually enjoy listening to his banter quite a bit.
- Incontrol... At first he seemed like a bit of a tool to me. Admittedly, it was me being the tool for judging the book by its intro. The more I've listened to Incontrol, the more I realize he's actually very funny. I crack up all the time at his little intentionally funny comments... Please, if you are reading this, keep making those little in-character comments for units. I think it's hilarious when you personify the units and say things like "See ya guys, goodluck in the base we're outta here!" (medevacs ditching marauders in Squirtle's base)
And with that, I'm off!
edit: Damn, just realized there is GSL!
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On May 07 2011 12:58 Samhax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:56 Sylverin wrote:On May 07 2011 12:56 Samhax wrote:
I have one question, does the feedback stop neural parasite? no its not a drain its a spell so once cast its either kill the infestor or wait Ok, so feedback is not the answer to mindcontrol. So if Slush controlled better his infestor, he could have won the battle.
Feedback removes energy and hurts the unit for the amount lost
Think old western movie at high noon infestor on one side high templar on the other whoever shoots first wins. it wasn't slush's control that was an issue it was naniwa's excellent observer use and picking off most of the infestors with feedback before neural parasite was even an issue.
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On May 07 2011 12:59 Gezuz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that afaik NASL offers walkover to the opponent if 1 guy doesnt show up so July took the walkover against white RA and Haypro didnt as theyre sort of in the same team. Your anger is quite amusing thou
Yep. Very nicely handled by all. Props to Haypro. This is the best outcome for everybody, especially us the spectators.
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On May 07 2011 12:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:53 AlBundy wrote:On May 07 2011 12:50 FallDownMarigold wrote:On May 07 2011 12:48 AlBundy wrote:On May 07 2011 12:46 SilverforceX wrote:On May 07 2011 12:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Armchair SC2 pros (I mean that in a positive way!):
Had all those infestors survived the templar sniping (say, had they been back at the natural), would they have been able to convincingly turn the tide? Would mass fungaling be good in that scenario, or is it best to just neural a bunch of optimal targets? Protoss army in mid, fungal, run back. Fungal, run back keep doing it til they die. You have 6 infestors u can kill any ground army. It's the feedback that shuts down that play. It's all about unit control and positioning. if you know that P got High templars, you NEED to keep the infestors in a good position. Also there are a lot of techniques that allow infestors to stay safe. Along that line, obviously it wouldn't apply here due to the observer, but he did have burrow - I'd like to see more Zergs actually "idle" their infestors burrowed rather than standing w/ army. Seems like people could take advantage of this trickery at least a little. You're right, there's burrow micro, also if you have the Ventral Sacs upgrade for Overlord you can hide Infestors into Ovelords then micro them accordingly. Think shuttle / reaver but with different micro. I would LOVE to see this type of play in SC2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to this point infestor use seems to be dominated by their inclusion among the "standing army". Too many times I've cringed watching them do their spells, then die intertwined and milling about with the ground hulk. Don't get me wrong - I know this type of control is very hard and multi-tasking intensive, but hey, I'm in total agreement with ya
Yeah that's really painful to watch... Even some Code S Zergs sometimes fail to properly control the Infestors
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On May 07 2011 12:57 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? GSL is working with the NASL, dreamhack wasnt willing to accomodate whitera to play his matches so i assume there was a bit ot tention here, also this was to be expected if any of the NASL players made it far in the GSL so they probably already had plans for this. Plus haypro and Nada or basically on the same team i doubt haypro would do that to him. So let me get this straight if Nada gets knocked out of the GSL today, we will see him play 2 games next week, if hes in the finals no games, and we will see him play 3 games the following week?
I dont care if NASL works with the United Nation or Save The Whale Foundation. Its simply not fair for those players that got penalty becuase NASL didnt work with Dreamhack. Its complet absurd that 1 player get a postphone and another player get -2 penalty.
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On May 07 2011 13:02 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 cheesemaster wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? GSL is working with the NASL, dreamhack wasnt willing to accomodate whitera to play his matches so i assume there was a bit ot tention here, also this was to be expected if any of the NASL players made it far in the GSL so they probably already had plans for this. Plus haypro and Nada or basically on the same team i doubt haypro would do that to him. So let me get this straight if Nada gets knocked out of the GSL today, we will see him play 2 games next week, if hes in the finals no games, and we will see him play 3 games the following week? I dont care if NASL works with the United Nation or Save The Whale Foundation. Its simply not fair for those players that got penalty becuase NASL didnt work with Dreamhack. Its complet absurd that 1 player get a postphone and another player get -2 penalty.
if you read a few posts above i explained the situation to you and youre still spiting nonsense rage cmon dude
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On May 07 2011 12:59 Gezuz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that afaik NASL offers walkover to the opponent if 1 guy doesnt show up so July took the walkover against white RA and Haypro didnt as theyre sort of in the same team. Your anger is quite amusing thou
You quite a cute troll. Im not angry but i do speak my mind when somehting is completly absurd and if you cant see why this is unfair against some players then you complet deluded
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On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that
Did you even do what I told you to? Nasl explained the situation quite perfectly.. so please calm down
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On May 07 2011 13:02 Sylverin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:58 Samhax wrote:On May 07 2011 12:56 Sylverin wrote:On May 07 2011 12:56 Samhax wrote:
I have one question, does the feedback stop neural parasite? no its not a drain its a spell so once cast its either kill the infestor or wait Ok, so feedback is not the answer to mindcontrol. So if Slush controlled better his infestor, he could have won the battle. Feedback removes energy and hurts the unit for the amount lost Think old western movie at high noon infestor on one side high templar on the other whoever shoots first wins. it wasn't slush's control that was an issue it was naniwa's excellent observer use and picking off most of the infestors with feedback before neural parasite was even an issue.
Yeah i miss what i wanted to say, it was his lack of map control, he could have seen this templar coming. So it was his fault anyway.
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On May 07 2011 13:02 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 cheesemaster wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? GSL is working with the NASL, dreamhack wasnt willing to accomodate whitera to play his matches so i assume there was a bit ot tention here, also this was to be expected if any of the NASL players made it far in the GSL so they probably already had plans for this. Plus haypro and Nada or basically on the same team i doubt haypro would do that to him. So let me get this straight if Nada gets knocked out of the GSL today, we will see him play 2 games next week, if hes in the finals no games, and we will see him play 3 games the following week? I dont care if NASL works with the United Nation or Save The Whale Foundation. Its simply not fair for those players that got penalty becuase NASL didnt work with Dreamhack. Its complet absurd that 1 player get a postphone and another player get -2 penalty.
Haypro was offered the walkover win, and didn't take it... What is your problem with that? You'd prefer it if he had in order to make it more 'fair'?
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On May 07 2011 13:01 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:48 VashTS wrote:On May 07 2011 12:47 Sigh wrote:
Naniwa soo good. Never thought of cancelling cybo
Nada next!!! Really? =/ Anyway, it was a g.g. imo. I still don't know if I would recommend a 7pool, but I think most people are recommending it because it shows HOW to hold off a 7pool. Can someone please tell me how he held the 7 pool off? Were the lings in his base b4 he scouted the pool? Reaction? Please
He did not even scout the pool. The probe did not even reach slush's base. The lings were up in naniwa's ramp before the first zealot were even started.
Naniwa cancelled core. Pulled probes ( around 10?) and put down a 2nd pylon. After that its basically worker/zealot micro vs lings.
He cancelled his 2nd pylon once he was able to save his first pylon to get another zealot out because his workers were not mining. Lost probably 2 or 3 probes.
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On May 07 2011 13:02 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 cheesemaster wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? GSL is working with the NASL, dreamhack wasnt willing to accomodate whitera to play his matches so i assume there was a bit ot tention here, also this was to be expected if any of the NASL players made it far in the GSL so they probably already had plans for this. Plus haypro and Nada or basically on the same team i doubt haypro would do that to him. So let me get this straight if Nada gets knocked out of the GSL today, we will see him play 2 games next week, if hes in the finals no games, and we will see him play 3 games the following week? I dont care if NASL works with the United Nation or Save The Whale Foundation. Its simply not fair for those players that got penalty becuase NASL didnt work with Dreamhack. Its complet absurd that 1 player get a postphone and another player get -2 penalty.
Why do you not understand that Haypro was probably offered the walkover and declined it. The others chose to take the walkover and the free win. It really is not hard to understand.
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