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On May 07 2011 13:14 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:12 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:08 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 13:06 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:04 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:59 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that afaik NASL offers walkover to the opponent if 1 guy doesnt show up so July took the walkover against white RA and Haypro didnt as theyre sort of in the same team. Your anger is quite amusing thou You quite a cute troll. Im not angry but i do speak my mind when somehting is completly absurd and if you cant see why this is unfair against some players then you complet deluded troll ? really ? are yu that slowminded that you dont understand the situation ? July TOOK the walkover as in he didnt give a shit about White RA excuses. Haypro rescheduled as hes teammate of Nada in a sense and NAda played GSL or had to prepare for it at the time. Now call yourself down as your posts are just geting more and more pathetic. More insults plz, Im allways fun of internet warriors insulting others that says something that doesnt fit into his little world. Anyway im done with you. those arent insults those are just very true remarks of your behaviour. I guess you realised the situation now and you backed down good for you mejt Yea im so scared of you amasing writing abilities, grow up child.
You really need to read before post.
On May 07 2011 13:00 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 12:57 PraetorianX wrote:On May 07 2011 12:53 sang wrote:
very classy move by NASL and haypro allowing NaDa to focus his efforts on GSL. Well played. Not classy at all, considering that they didn't give the same courtesy to White-Ra and Naniwa. And I know, "it's up to the opponent", blablabla, but in essence it's really up to NASL since they make the rules (and enforce them). It's up to their opponent to either take the Walkover or reschedule. Everyone so far as decided to take the walkover. Haypro decided to reschedule probably because he's a super manner boss and Team Liquid and oGs share a team house.
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There is no conspiracy here, so don't create one.
If you show up late for work without reason, you'll get slapped in the face by your boss. If you tell him you can't come in advance, it tends to be fine.
The Nada situation was handled with commons sense in every way. Even if the rules had opposed the current outcome, it still would have been the right thing to do.
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On May 07 2011 13:12 enzym wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 NASL wrote:
Broadcast Reshedule
We are going to be changing our format slightly to improve viewer experience and player scheduling conflicts.
The broadcast schedule will be moved forward by one day and matches will now air Wednesday through Sunday at their regular times.
This change will occur this week so there will be no broadcast on Friday. Friday's matches will air on Saturday. From there on out we will continue with our adapted schedule.
We want to apologize for the delay in our broadcast this Tuesday and the absence of the anticipated match-up between JulyZerg and White-Ra.
There was also an issue while trying to film the first game of the day, Strelok-Naniwa. At first Naniwa asked if we could reschedule for a different day. Naniwa then asked for time to rest before the match as he had been traveling. Meanwhile we asked Strelok and his manager if that was OK, Strelok agreed to wait.
Naniwa had not logged in to the player channel and did not see this message. Later it became clear that he did not receive this message from us.
While this was going on we saw that Naniwa was laddering. We were taken aback and went to Mouz's manager to ask if he wanted to take a win.
Immediately after the problem we called Dignitas' manager Odee to discuss and he stands by our decision to award the game to Strelok. However, we could have communicated better and will not be penalizing Naniwa; he will remain at 0-0 and will not be fined.
Previously we had allowed players to delay their match on a given day if they gave us advance warning. From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events. As always, emergencies or illness will allow rescheduling.
This delay will allow us to be more flexible to LAN events as they occur and to make sure that we can air every single match that should be played.
Also to be noted, waiting on players to arrive is heavily affecting our schedule. Many times we have been forced to break our schedule and film games out of series. This increases our edit time immensely in addition to throwing the casters off. When compounded with our tight encode schedule it can have major effects on our stream timeline.
By adding a two-day lead time from shoot to show, we think we can make sure that every game where the players arrive on time will be played.
We are also no longer going to put the burden of choosing to take the win on to the players. We had been asking them as we thought that they would prefer that, but based on feedback we see that there is too much pressure for them to not take the win.
Thank you for your continued support. source
For everyone still arguing about this... please stop.
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On May 07 2011 13:18 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:13 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 13:10 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:06 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 13:04 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:02 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:57 cheesemaster wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? GSL is working with the NASL, dreamhack wasnt willing to accomodate whitera to play his matches so i assume there was a bit ot tention here, also this was to be expected if any of the NASL players made it far in the GSL so they probably already had plans for this. Plus haypro and Nada or basically on the same team i doubt haypro would do that to him. So let me get this straight if Nada gets knocked out of the GSL today, we will see him play 2 games next week, if hes in the finals no games, and we will see him play 3 games the following week? I dont care if NASL works with the United Nation or Save The Whale Foundation. Its simply not fair for those players that got penalty becuase NASL didnt work with Dreamhack. Its complet absurd that 1 player get a postphone and another player get -2 penalty. if you read a few posts above i explained the situation to you and youre still spiting nonsense rage cmon dude And you a still a rude troll. You havent explained anything except insulting me. but yea keep it up nubcake it has been explained several times to you by several people. whats there not to get ? haypro didnt tok the walkover July did if you want to be angry with someone it should be july not NASL now please stop before you emberass yourself even further What ever reason you people got it simply doesnt justify that the rules isnt the same to all players..And thats all I got to say. All players can choose to take walkovers over their opponents if their opponent cannot play the game. How is that any different now? Just stop while you are behind. You are being a huge ass to Gezuz who was calmly describing the situation multiple times for you.
Guys, please update the information on which your opinions are built. I just posted the most recent NASL rules and reshedule update on page 36 and you are continuing to contradict its content for the sake of barking at each other.
Here it is again.
On April 14 2011 NASL wrote:
Broadcast Reshedule
We are going to be changing our format slightly to improve viewer experience and player scheduling conflicts.
The broadcast schedule will be moved forward by one day and matches will now air Wednesday through Sunday at their regular times.
This change will occur this week so there will be no broadcast on Friday. Friday's matches will air on Saturday. From there on out we will continue with our adapted schedule.
We want to apologize for the delay in our broadcast this Tuesday and the absence of the anticipated match-up between JulyZerg and White-Ra.
There was also an issue while trying to film the first game of the day, Strelok-Naniwa. At first Naniwa asked if we could reschedule for a different day. Naniwa then asked for time to rest before the match as he had been traveling. Meanwhile we asked Strelok and his manager if that was OK, Strelok agreed to wait.
Naniwa had not logged in to the player channel and did not see this message. Later it became clear that he did not receive this message from us.
While this was going on we saw that Naniwa was laddering. We were taken aback and went to Mouz's manager to ask if he wanted to take a win.
Immediately after the problem we called Dignitas' manager Odee to discuss and he stands by our decision to award the game to Strelok. However, we could have communicated better and will not be penalizing Naniwa; he will remain at 0-0 and will not be fined.
Previously we had allowed players to delay their match on a given day if they gave us advance warning. From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events. As always, emergencies or illness will allow rescheduling.
This delay will allow us to be more flexible to LAN events as they occur and to make sure that we can air every single match that should be played.
Also to be noted, waiting on players to arrive is heavily affecting our schedule. Many times we have been forced to break our schedule and film games out of series. This increases our edit time immensely in addition to throwing the casters off. When compounded with our tight encode schedule it can have major effects on our stream timeline.
By adding a two-day lead time from shoot to show, we think we can make sure that every game where the players arrive on time will be played.
We are also no longer going to put the burden of choosing to take the win on to the players. We had been asking them as we thought that they would prefer that, but based on feedback we see that there is too much pressure for them to not take the win.
Thank you for your continued support.
source
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Why is Naniwa 3-1? I remember them saying that he would not be given a loss, while Strelok would still get the win. Did they change their minds about this?
Or is it that he does not lose any points for that? Since he is 3-1 while having 6 points.
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On May 07 2011 13:26 holynorth wrote:
Why is Naniwa 3-1? I remember them saying that he would not be given a loss, while Strelok would still get the win. Did they change their minds about this?
Or is it that he does not lose any points for that? Since he is 3-1 while having 6 points.
I think its that he didn't lose any points.
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I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here?
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On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here?
They are pre-recorded.
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On May 07 2011 13:38 JKira wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They are pre-recorded.
So why couldnt nada play his game against haypro? Technically there wouldnt be a time conflict then.
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On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here?
They aren't live, and players could theoretically maphack, so the honor system is the only thing stopping them from really cheating. NASL isn't live, but the Nada game was still postponed because it would've been played yesterday or the day before -- both times when Nada would be practicing for GSL.
GSL > NASL, and Nada is in the semifinals now. You can bet your ass he wouldn't even bother preparing for NASL (and that's assuming he would've shown up in the first place).
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On May 07 2011 13:39 WizShaw wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:38 JKira wrote:On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They are pre-recorded. So why couldnt nada play his game against haypro? Technically there wouldnt be a time conflict then.
Its not that there was a time conflict, its that he is preparing for the GSL.
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On May 07 2011 13:39 WizShaw wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:38 JKira wrote:On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They are pre-recorded. So why couldnt nada play his game against haypro? Technically there wouldnt be a time conflict then.
Maybe these matches were recorded 4 days ago when he was playing his quarterfinal match, who knows.
Edit: I just realized that it's a strong possibility Nada talked with Haypro about postponing their match since they are kind of on the same team.
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On May 07 2011 13:40 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They aren't live, and players could theoretically maphack, so the honor system is the only thing stopping them from really cheating. NASL isn't live, but the Nada game was still postponed because it would've been played yesterday or the day before -- both times when Nada would be practicing for GSL. GSL > NASL, and Nada is in the semifinals now. You can bet your ass he wouldn't even bother preparing for NASL (and that's assuming he would've shown up in the first place).
I dont know if I agree with that. Maphack? Nah, to much at stake, blizzard can track it. And they would lose all their sponsorships etc if there was controversy raised. Not even an option in my opinion.
Also, what your saying sounds like speculation. Gretorp and Incontrol didnt say he needed the time to practice, but said specifically that there was a time schedule conflict with the GSL.
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On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
No, they are not live. (I am not sure if they are played M-F or Tues-Sat).
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here?
The Koreans need to wake up at 4am or so, and he may not have wanted to throw off his sleep schedule or preparation time. There wasn't a direct time conflict, but Haypro and the NASL were presumably both okay with postponing it in order to have a better match.
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On May 07 2011 13:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:39 WizShaw wrote:On May 07 2011 13:38 JKira wrote:On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They are pre-recorded. So why couldnt nada play his game against haypro? Technically there wouldnt be a time conflict then. Its not that there was a time conflict, its that he is preparing for the GSL.
Didnt sound like that, but ok.
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On May 07 2011 13:44 WizShaw wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:40 hmunkey wrote:On May 07 2011 13:35 WizShaw wrote:
I asked this before....
Are the NASL games LIVE? Because whats to stop players from cheating?
And I ask it again, because at the end of tonights stream, the Nada game was postponed, because he was set to play in the GSL. Which is set to commence in 86 minutes.
Now if these were pre recorded, this wouldnt have happened, meaning that the games were in fact live.
Whats stopping these players from watching the live stream on another computer?
Or am I missing something here? They aren't live, and players could theoretically maphack, so the honor system is the only thing stopping them from really cheating. NASL isn't live, but the Nada game was still postponed because it would've been played yesterday or the day before -- both times when Nada would be practicing for GSL. GSL > NASL, and Nada is in the semifinals now. You can bet your ass he wouldn't even bother preparing for NASL (and that's assuming he would've shown up in the first place). I dont know if I agree with that. Maphack? Nah, to much at stake, blizzard can track it. And they would lose all their sponsorships etc if there was controversy raised. Not even an option in my opinion.
Perhaps, but players can still "theoretically" maphack.
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We set aside two events, GSL and MLG that we would fit our schedule around. The fact that Nada advanced to the Semi Finals of the GSL is significant / important enough for us to grant him an exception.
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On May 07 2011 13:14 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 13:12 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:08 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 13:06 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 13:04 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:59 Gezuz wrote:On May 07 2011 12:57 Nerdslayer wrote:On May 07 2011 12:54 Dayvx wrote:On May 07 2011 12:52 Nerdslayer wrote:
Ok thats bullshit NASL. White-ra got 2-0 vs july becuase he played the dreamhack final but now that Nada playing the GSL semifinal you cna postphone that wtf is this shit?? Might want to read up on the facts before posting something like this.. ohh, Really how is this fair?? You cant just change the rules in the middle of the tournament. Lets say White-Ra doesnt make it to the play-off by 1 point then what?? Yea this is fair lets just change the rules in the middle of the tournament and screw the guys who got penalty before the change. I dont understand how you can justify that afaik NASL offers walkover to the opponent if 1 guy doesnt show up so July took the walkover against white RA and Haypro didnt as theyre sort of in the same team. Your anger is quite amusing thou You quite a cute troll. Im not angry but i do speak my mind when somehting is completly absurd and if you cant see why this is unfair against some players then you complet deluded troll ? really ? are yu that slowminded that you dont understand the situation ? July TOOK the walkover as in he didnt give a shit about White RA excuses. Haypro rescheduled as hes teammate of Nada in a sense and NAda played GSL or had to prepare for it at the time. Now call yourself down as your posts are just geting more and more pathetic. More insults plz, Im allways fun of internet warriors insulting others that says something that doesnt fit into his little world. Anyway im done with you. those arent insults those are just very true remarks of your behaviour. I guess you realised the situation now and you backed down good for you mejt Yea im so scared of you amasing writing abilities, grow up child. User was warned for this post
How does his aggressive behavior only warent a warning ? Gezuz was very polite and Nerdslayer down right shit talks him every post. Wow.
Anyways. Great to see Strelok doing will  Silent Terran assassin!
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On May 07 2011 17:25 Xeris wrote:
We set aside two events, GSL and MLG that we would fit our schedule around. The fact that Nada advanced to the Semi Finals of the GSL is significant / important enough for us to grant him an exception.
This should be put in the OP really. Theres really nothing more to explain than that.
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