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[IPL] Week 2 Day 4 - Grand Final - IdrA v KiWiKaKi - Page 2

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ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
May 01 2011 22:15 GMT
#21
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.
elsrickle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada53 Posts
May 01 2011 22:16 GMT
#22
Hope KiWiKaKi can put up a good fight so we can see some great games ^^

(Pretty certain IdrA is going to win though :D )
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
May 01 2011 22:18 GMT
#23
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


At MLG Dallas Kiwikaki steamrolled IdrA, but in IPL Winner's Round 3 Idra steamrolled Kiwikaki. So generally pretty even on the skill level.
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Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
May 01 2011 22:18 GMT
#24
IPL has been my favorite league with GSL, keep up the good work! : )
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 01 2011 22:18 GMT
#25
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


Kiwi has pretty much had Idra's number in SC2 until IPL, where Idra beat Kiwi 3-0 once.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
May 01 2011 22:20 GMT
#26
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


PvZ is Kiwi's second best match up (After PvT)... Generally speaking it's pretty good as he does a lot of these strange unorthodox manuevers which IdrA tends to be weak to, as well as Kiwi has a really good lategame.

Can't call Kiwi favoured, but he is one of the few people that can consistantly beat him... In the winners semi's Kiwi just didn't play his best, while IdrA played really well... Hence the result. Historically SelecT and KiWiKaKi are the people who can beat IdrA the most, so let's just hope!

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Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
May 01 2011 22:20 GMT
#27
On May 02 2011 07:18 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


Kiwi has pretty much had Idra's number in SC2 until IPL, where Idra beat Kiwi 3-0 once.


IdrA has been having a rough streak vs. toss up until now. I'm hoping this has ended now because it looks like IdrA has revised his ZvP style quite a bit.
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
May 01 2011 22:22 GMT
#28
IdrA's PvZ improved so much lately, there's no point in doing comparisons with his past results.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#29
Ugh, when I asked about extended series yesterday and heard there wasn't going to be any, I was so excited, but I totally forgot about the whole double elimination shenanigans. Ah well, it is what it is.

Finals in these kinds of formats are always so anticlimactic, it's going to take a superhuman effort for KiWi to do anything here. =(
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
May 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#30
Anyone who hasn't gotten totally up to date yet would have totally been spoiled hard by the title.

But I'm looking forward to this.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 01 2011 22:25 GMT
#31
Hope vods are up when I get off work in 6 hours :D.

Idra fighting!
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
May 01 2011 22:26 GMT
#32
On May 02 2011 07:13 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:08 Alex.IGN wrote:
On May 02 2011 07:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 02 2011 07:03 Alex.IGN wrote:
On May 02 2011 07:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 02 2011 06:54 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
I was really impressed by this tournament and I look forward to the next season! This was really great!

Btw can anyone explain the reason for two Bo5s? One grand final and another in case kiwikaki wins?


Since IdrA hasn't lost yet, he gets an advantage, meaning every player in the tournament is allowed to lose once. Not the most favored format, but if you recall MLG, it was very similiar where Naniwa being from the winners bracket was up 2-0 on Kiwikaki because they have met before and Naniwa won.

But then theres the arguement that it's too big of a disadvantage because the person from the loser bracket had to play many more games.


This isn't extended series, this is just normal double elim. Idra does not have an advantage over Kiwi except for having not lost any sets.


I don't see how you can think winning one Bo5 is not a advantage as opposed to winning 2 Bo5. You can play relaxed, because you know even if you mess up this series, you always have another. Anyhow.


I meant not an advantage like starting up 2-0 in a BO7 or something like that. IdrA of course has an advantage in terms of how many sets he has to win.


Okay I see, I know they aren't the same thing, but in a way, they do the same thing. Kiwikaki has to win 6 games, IdrA needs to win 3-5 games... Yielding something similiar as an extended result.

There was a big pool on teamliquid about the extended series rule, and if people like it... And it turned out approx 60% didn't like it, 20% liked it, and 20% were undecided (10k votes total?). So while it isn't the exact same, I think for your next tournaments to come, consider that as I do think one big series would be preferred by most.

And I just want to add that it's great you guys are responding to the community and answering questions, it's great to see. Hopefully I'm not coming off as arrogant.


If they removed extended series in MLG this is the exact way they would do it. You aren't understanding that debate. With MLG, the two sides of that debate are this way vs. their extended series.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
May 01 2011 22:27 GMT
#33
Great series so far guys. IGN really stepped their game up and I think you splashed into the competitive SC2 scene extremely successfully. Can't wait for these games & for future tournaments ! IGN FTW!
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
May 01 2011 22:30 GMT
#34
On May 02 2011 07:27 jester- wrote:
Great series so far guys. IGN really stepped their game up and I think you splashed into the competitive SC2 scene extremely successfully. Can't wait for these games & for future tournaments ! IGN FTW!


I can't express how much I agree with this. =D
karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
May 01 2011 22:32 GMT
#35
gonna be a great series!
That puppy is killing e-sports
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 01 2011 22:44 GMT
#36
So excited for this! Have been wanting to see a good PvZ for awhile now
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
May 01 2011 22:45 GMT
#37
On May 02 2011 07:18 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


At MLG Dallas Kiwikaki steamrolled IdrA, but in IPL Winner's Round 3 Idra steamrolled Kiwikaki. So generally pretty even on the skill level.

Wait, that's the same guy who got 0-3'ed by IdrA already?

ZZZZZzzz. This double elimination format is boring. So IdrA is just gonna steamroll him once more.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
May 01 2011 22:45 GMT
#38
huh huh huh huh HYPEEEE
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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 01 2011 22:46 GMT
#39
Hypehypehype!

GRACK FIELDSU HWAITING!!
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Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
May 01 2011 22:48 GMT
#40
On May 02 2011 07:15 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
How's Kiwikaki compared top IdrA? I love TSL3 where IdrA had to face quite formidable opponents and got eliminated early.

In IPL, IdrA is just having a field day.


Hahaha, nice unintentional pun.

I'm loving the advantage IdrA gets from being in the winner's bracket. I always thought winner's v loser's bracket was wierd and unfair, but this fixes a lot of it for me.

I don't want to start flaming commentators, but my enjoyment of the match will unfortunatly be effected if a certain person casts.
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