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On April 29 2011 19:31 Bastilol wrote: NOOOOO i missed the MVP vs Min games can someone give me a quick overview? Min Baneling busts MvP and wins MvP bunker rushes Min and wins Min goes for Ling infestor Brood Lord Corruptor MvP goes for Marine Tank Medivac +Vikings and win after alot of Fungals and exchanges and stuff (epic game btw)
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On April 29 2011 19:26 Ezekyle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote: SO bad broodlord positioning.... typical korean play to fail at adapting, he should have stopped building brood lords after his failed counter-push. o_O At least try to hide the racism, seriously. How is that racism, wtf? My girlfriend is korean. The point is that korean play generally is less adaptive than what we see from foreign players. It's not racism to say that koreans are lightyears beyond foreigners in starcraft 1, how can it be racism just because it's a slighty more negative general statement?
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On April 29 2011 19:31 MrCon wrote: I feel Min was good with this strategy, but lacked in positioning and army control. With the BL in front, infestors behind and only used to kill vikings, corruptors to kill fungaled vikings and mass lings to dive into the tanks after broodlings are everywhere, this works. But after the first good engagement he still had broodlords, but nothing behind them to protect, this is a very fragile equilibrium and you really have to be on top of it. Against a heavy multitasker like MVP, this is hard, but stil la good way to go imo.
Agreed. That first push almost worked against MVP of all people. Min was waaay closer to breaking MVP than anyone wants to admit apparently.
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The movie was Thor (first one).
The next best tournament to watch will be the up and downs! MMA, Bomber, Ryung, Mvp, MC, MKP, Jinro. And the supporting cast is only a little bit behind.
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awesome game 3 there , very recommanded. MVP HWAITING
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How are koreans less adaptive? They come out with most of the strategies... Its just seems slower as the pros don't use the new strategies until they refine the build order and mechanics.
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On April 29 2011 19:31 johlar wrote: "Switch to ultras"
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With that build ultras just arent a possibility, you need alooot of upgrades for them to be good. He couldnt support such a switch with no melee upgrades and barely enough income to keep producing And a 70 second build time on top of that. Making ultralisks when you aren't already WAY ahead is an enormous risk, since you're going to be spending thousands of minerals and gas on the cavern, upgrades and the ultras themselves and won't actually get the units for a long time. Even if he did try to tech switch into unupgraded ultralisks, it would have created a huge timing window for Mvp to just go fucking kill him.
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On April 29 2011 19:32 kvn4444 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 19:31 bbQ4Aiur wrote: again, anyone can show me Keen's applausing GIF ? xD its actually on page one of this very thread hehe. hope he has another celebration. hahah, sees it
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On April 29 2011 19:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 19:29 Jacuzzi wrote: Wow people really aren't giving Min credit... he couldn't beat the best Terran in the world so now he's terrible? WTF Min was overhyped as hell; no way he's worthy of code S compared to some of the other monsters in code A right now
Overhyped by who? Tasteless and Artosis overhype everyone so you really shouldn't read into their player hyping at all. Min is a decent player, but not Code S material yet. That doesn't mean he's terrible though.
I really wish Violet would've got more hype though.
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Break over Vanvan vs Keen
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On April 29 2011 19:35 openbox1 wrote: How are koreans less adaptive? They come out with most of the strategies... Its just seems slower as the pros don't use the new strategies until they refine the build order and mechanics.
I'm not talking about using new strategies, I'm talking about using a strategy, seeing it getting countered and adapting your play to minimize losses.
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On April 29 2011 19:30 Glam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 19:27 exarchrum wrote: What kpop is the pants backwards referring to? Haha he wasn't referring to kpop, he's referring to a rap group of 2 kids from back in the late 80s/early 90s that wore their clothes backwards: Kriss Kross.... I'm old enough to have bought one of their tapes. lol Pants on backwards you say.... Not Kpop you say...
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I don't get the sentiment that Koreans aren't adaptive. Yes, the very top of the top players in Korea don't use risky strategies. Neither do the top non-Koreans though. (IdrA, SeleCT, Whitera, Naniwa, etc.)
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You think just because you saw it first Thorzain using mass thors that it hasn't been done in the Korean ladders before?
Its been seen in US/Europe/Korea. Its just not as popular as bio or early seige.
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OH NOES THE PAPER SIEGE TANK!!!!!
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On April 29 2011 19:35 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 19:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 29 2011 19:29 Jacuzzi wrote: Wow people really aren't giving Min credit... he couldn't beat the best Terran in the world so now he's terrible? WTF Min was overhyped as hell; no way he's worthy of code S compared to some of the other monsters in code A right now Overhyped by who? Tasteless and Artosis overhype everyone so you really shouldn't read into their player hyping at all. Min is a decent player, but not Code S material yet. That doesn't mean he's terrible though. I really wish Violet would've got more hype though.
yeah, I would definitely rate Violet higher then Min in skill level.
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On April 29 2011 19:32 SKtheAnathema wrote: never ceases to amaze me how people here thinks you can just make whatever you want when you want. no shit, im sure if min had the chance to make ultras or switch tech, he would've. it's called pressure for a reason. if mvp is down your throat and denying your shit constantly, you're not going to have 3500/2000 to remax with ultras or whatever the fuck you want just cause you want it
This is the sort of sentiment from zergs that really puzzles me. Why do you think that when someone says he should have mad some Ultras they mean he should switch to 200/200 ultras? Just because zerg can just S-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ or S-TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT or S-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, doesn't mean they should.
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The Code A medal is sieged up... seems like a Terran will win it.
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the gsl studio is under siege!
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