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Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
April 28 2011 18:15 GMT
#1741
game was close UNTIL morrow committed a shitton of roaches for another not so effective maindrop, while a couple of stalkers kill like 20 drones? -.- meh
Saiwa
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany789 Posts
April 28 2011 18:16 GMT
#1742
Morrow did everything a Zerg could do ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM_P7eLbY48&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME CLIDE ! Artosis
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
April 28 2011 18:17 GMT
#1743
Really enjoyed the Morrow Kiwikaki game. Enjoying the casting, really seems nice. Few wrong words used like hatch instead of nexus but really who cares

Felt that Morrow sacced a few too many units on each drop though.
PaterPatriae
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany428 Posts
April 28 2011 18:17 GMT
#1744
On April 29 2011 03:16 Saiwa wrote:
Morrow did everything a Zerg could do ...


no he doesn`t. there was just no infestors to fungal or take over the mothership
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 28 2011 18:18 GMT
#1745
On April 29 2011 03:16 Saiwa wrote:
Morrow did everything a Zerg could do ...

No, he never build any infestors, which he honnestly should. Or try another composition such as ling/banes/infestors.
Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
April 28 2011 18:20 GMT
#1746
These small maps that have a small limited amount of bases and are easy to cut in half just hurt the zerg so much, the protoss doesnt even need to go kill the zerg they just need to be efficient. The game itself was painful to watch.
Dont tase me bro
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
April 28 2011 18:20 GMT
#1747
I don't think you need that many drones in ZvP, I only get 60-70 as those 10-20 extra supply is better put in a few extra units, such as infestors. 60-70 drones lets you have less money to re-macro after an attack but it will make your army so much stronger. Those last 10-20 supply are broodlords, infestors and corruptors. Which are the key units to break the protoss when maxed.
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
April 28 2011 18:21 GMT
#1748
Artosis > Anna, Geoff is just jealous :p
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 28 2011 18:25 GMT
#1749
On April 29 2011 03:16 Saiwa wrote:
Morrow did everything a Zerg could do ...


No infestors at all, suicide roaches everywhere, hatch lost with 20 drones against 5 stalkers and mostly broodlords at 26min omg.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
April 28 2011 18:26 GMT
#1750
brilliant game by morrow, but even better play by kiwi, this had nothing to do with him being toss, he made perfect decisions (especially sticking with his mothership game plan), transitions, and engagements

while morrow threw units away in small clumps in weak harrassement attempts and did drops at ill-fated times, plus he missed his window of opportunity for the necessary infestor switch (that he even geared up for between the first two major engagements), opting to go broodlords against a pure stalker/colo army when he clearly wasn't able to provide the necessary ground support

great series, i'm very impressed at how good these two have gotten
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Rebel_lion
Profile Joined January 2009
United States271 Posts
April 28 2011 18:31 GMT
#1751
I feel for you Morrow. I dunno why , but i thought the zerg was working harder and doing better, but toss can just decide when to win.
Something witty here....
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 28 2011 18:35 GMT
#1752
Artosis can talk really well but he can't play well.

Too many minor and major things not doing well enough.

Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
April 28 2011 18:37 GMT
#1753
Artosis has the right strategies but fails everytime at micro. Lack of practice and experience in game showing I think.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 18:44:15
April 28 2011 18:40 GMT
#1754
On April 29 2011 03:25 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:16 Saiwa wrote:
Morrow did everything a Zerg could do ...


No infestors at all, suicide roaches everywhere, hatch lost with 20 drones against 5 stalkers and mostly broodlords at 26min omg.


When Zerg doesn't drop everywhere..."drop everywhere". When Zerg does drop everywhere..."stop suiciding roaches". Morrows drops were quite effective. He sniped a nexus, many probes, and some buildings. I think that's really all you can hope for with drops.

Also can we please stop pretending infestors are the end all solution to ZvP and taking every Zerg loss and saying "should have built infestors". First of all I don't even think theyre that great, but thats of course a matter of opinion. More importantly im sure morrow has had time to practice his ZvP, so if he isn't using infestors it might be because he doesn't like them or they don't suit his style or w.e.

On April 29 2011 03:26 anatem wrote:
brilliant game by morrow, but even better play by kiwi, this had nothing to do with him being toss, he made perfect decisions (especially sticking with his mothership game plan), transitions, and engagements

while morrow threw units away in small clumps in weak harrassement attempts and did drops at ill-fated times, plus he missed his window of opportunity for the necessary infestor switch (that he even geared up for between the first two major engagements), opting to go broodlords against a pure stalker/colo army when he clearly wasn't able to provide the necessary ground support

great series, i'm very impressed at how good these two have gotten


Is there ever a right time to drop and do multi pronged attacks on that map? The main, natural, 3rd, and 4th are all so fucking close together, I don't see how morrows strat could have been effective in the first place. Surprised he actually got that much out of it when it literally takes like 6 seconds to go from main to 3rd. Add to that the ability to warp units in anyway and its what the fuck. Really dislike shattered T in ZvP lol =/
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 28 2011 18:40 GMT
#1755
I'll be surprise if he has lack of practice as he seems to ladder daily a thousand times at korea server.

Inexperience? Quite impossible to believe but maybe he should just stick to his old race the mighty 1337 Zerg and not Protoss. He forgotten chrono boost for most part which made me sad
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 28 2011 18:42 GMT
#1756
Not seen Artosis playing before, but crazy to see him 4 gate. O_o Didn't think it would be his style.
teser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
April 28 2011 18:43 GMT
#1757
omg that was painful to watch
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
April 28 2011 18:43 GMT
#1758
OMG PYLON -.-
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#1759
That must the most fail 4gate i have ever seen. Worst to do in zerg with all the spine crawlers >.>
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
April 28 2011 18:45 GMT
#1760
well it's not inexperience with the game its inexperience IN the game and within the race. Playing 1 month ladderring like hell doesn't help you get all the micro details.

Also : omg pylon ? Artosssiiis
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