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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1999 Posts
May 10 2011 00:25 GMT
#821
On May 10 2011 09:20 Zannadar wrote:
Ugh...What's up with Jinro losing his game in the recent weeks?

Yeah bit harsh to put this bo3 down to slumping, he was up against MC ffs.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
May 10 2011 00:26 GMT
#822
I am not talking about this game...Several other losses in the recent major tournaments...

I really wanna see him up there but something seems to be going wrong...
fatvirgin
Profile Joined September 2010
23 Posts
May 10 2011 00:37 GMT
#823
Jinro has looked pretty bad (to his standards) since the World vs Korea GSL thing.
caracarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden141 Posts
May 10 2011 01:10 GMT
#824
Jinro is an amazing player as we all know. He can do so much better then he has showed the last month... Something is not good with him .... But he will be back fighting!!!
Jinro Whaiting!
LwReisen
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia94 Posts
May 10 2011 01:26 GMT
#825
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.
MORDEKAIZER ES #1
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 10 2011 01:44 GMT
#826
I'll be shocked if MC doesnt win next GSL. He seemed to have redoubled his effort after embarrassing group stage and thorzain rolled him.
MC for president
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:22:33
May 10 2011 06:15 GMT
#827
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


There is a lot you don't understand. Doesn't make it less true. Do you happen to believe they have hacked the game in the oGs house and installed LAN? I just lost respect for you making this post. Take THAT! Zing! Buuuuuurn!

...

On May 10 2011 08:42 wristuzi wrote:
I hope everyone doesn't think Morrow can just do baneling busts As far as I can see it's just because he keeps getting 2 raxed nearly every game, and they're a good way to punish 2 rax I guess. Go Morrow ^^


He does it because he keeps winning with it. Might not be the most fun to watch at times but you can't really fault him.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
LwReisen
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:31:21
May 10 2011 06:30 GMT
#828
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.




Two computers set up exactly the same in exactly the same environment sharing exactly the same connection, playing on exactly the same server. How does one lag whilst the other doesn't? Makes no sense unless....

Jinro forgot to turn off his pr0n downloads.
MORDEKAIZER ES #1
Kalent
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada253 Posts
May 10 2011 07:48 GMT
#829
On May 10 2011 10:44 tdt wrote:
I'll be shocked if MC doesnt win next GSL. He seemed to have redoubled his effort after embarrassing group stage and thorzain rolled him.


MC seems as beastly as ever. I think the extremely close matches with Thorzain (Epic games) and the drop from the group stage really motivated him.
Korean-Canadian who spends way too much time on Afreeca
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 09:00:51
May 10 2011 09:00 GMT
#830
yup
chinese protosses becoming the best by far, no doubt
xiaot,lovett owning everywhere :< hbt is coming too :<
also Infi switched to sc2 and already top1 world rank, really feeling scared for Korea being top1 sc2 country. I think China will be top1-2 too (1 or 2 will see)
No carpal tunnel no skill
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#831
--- Nuked ---
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 09:33:36
May 10 2011 09:32 GMT
#832
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Derp, I have no fucking clue about what I'm talking about.



There are muliple factors that could cause lag even in those conditions. I hope you realize lag can be more than simple latancy? Also:

"Two computers set up exactly the same.."

How do you know this? You live in the oGs house? You do realize that things don't magically turn into the same thing just because it's in the same house?

Banelings are too cute to blow up
BeefEU
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands260 Posts
May 10 2011 09:47 GMT
#833
On May 10 2011 18:32 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Derp, I have no fucking clue about what I'm talking about.



There are muliple factors that could cause lag even in those conditions. I hope you realize lag can be more than simple latancy? Also:

"Two computers set up exactly the same.."

How do you know this? You live in the oGs house? You do realize that things don't magically turn into the same thing just because it's in the same house?



Well everytime I checked one of those artosis's house tours, they alllllll have the same pc's and it seems like they get bought in bulk.

Seems like the most obvious thing to do.

And Jinro is just a crybaby if he blames it on the lagg.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 10 2011 09:51 GMT
#834
On May 10 2011 18:47 BeefEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 18:32 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Derp, I have no fucking clue about what I'm talking about.



There are muliple factors that could cause lag even in those conditions. I hope you realize lag can be more than simple latancy? Also:

"Two computers set up exactly the same.."

How do you know this? You live in the oGs house? You do realize that things don't magically turn into the same thing just because it's in the same house?



Well everytime I checked one of those artosis's house tours, they alllllll have the same pc's and it seems like they get bought in bulk.

Seems like the most obvious thing to do.

And Jinro is just a crybaby if he blames it on the lagg.


You never upgrade or change your computers? Are they not allowed to install software? (I know that's not true) It could be a router problem, software problem, hardware problem, Blizzard problem.

It's just a weird reason to "lose respect" for someone based on the assumption he was not being honest (which the first person I responded to implied).

Whatever I'm done with this. Believe what you want to believe.

Banelings are too cute to blow up
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
May 10 2011 09:52 GMT
#835
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


There is a lot you don't understand. Doesn't make it less true. Do you happen to believe they have hacked the game in the oGs house and installed LAN? I just lost respect for you making this post. Take THAT! Zing! Buuuuuurn!

...

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 08:42 wristuzi wrote:
I hope everyone doesn't think Morrow can just do baneling busts As far as I can see it's just because he keeps getting 2 raxed nearly every game, and they're a good way to punish 2 rax I guess. Go Morrow ^^


He does it because he keeps winning with it. Might not be the most fun to watch at times but you can't really fault him.

They are both playing on the same internet, like fromm the same modem, its not like one player is going to have a castly different latency than the other. If they were connecting wireless (highly unlikely) then yea it could be a problem as its not as stable.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
May 10 2011 10:03 GMT
#836
oh and i really dont like the way morrow has turned out as a player. The only games i see him win against terran these days are baneling busts, the exact same way everytime. Look at his past 10 games against terran im thinking at least 80% (could be 100 though lol) were from a 2 base baneling bust. Fairly uncreative on his part and its not like a baneling bust requires a huge amount of skill, derp kill building roll into units. Baneling control in an actual battle can be intense but in a baneling bust its pretty striaght forward.

It was even worse hearing eleine sun going "OMG morrow is soo good, hes adopted this july style hes so good"

I see july ramp up the pressure but i rarely see him do a standard baneling bust, like against mvp it was like banelings and mutas wich was pretty cool and it was at a really wierd timing as well.


Im not hating on baneling bust its totally a legit strategy, but when thats all you do to win, its pretty pathetic i mean any half decent player given the situation morrow was in just before he attacked with the banelings could have won those games sure its nada's fault for not being prepared but its a pretty bitch strategy to use every game he lost the game he tried to macro so nada should have been expecting it i guess.

Morrow was kind of the same when he played terran he used some very abusive builds but against zerg now , like 5 racks reaper, wich was way cooler though imo requires far more micro and skill.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
May 10 2011 10:39 GMT
#837
On May 10 2011 19:03 cheesemaster wrote:
oh and i really dont like the way morrow has turned out as a player. The only games i see him win against terran these days are baneling busts, the exact same way everytime. Look at his past 10 games against terran im thinking at least 80% (could be 100 though lol) were from a 2 base baneling bust. Fairly uncreative on his part and its not like a baneling bust requires a huge amount of skill, derp kill building roll into units. Baneling control in an actual battle can be intense but in a baneling bust its pretty striaght forward.

It was even worse hearing eleine sun going "OMG morrow is soo good, hes adopted this july style hes so good"

I see july ramp up the pressure but i rarely see him do a standard baneling bust, like against mvp it was like banelings and mutas wich was pretty cool and it was at a really wierd timing as well.


Im not hating on baneling bust its totally a legit strategy, but when thats all you do to win, its pretty pathetic i mean any half decent player given the situation morrow was in just before he attacked with the banelings could have won those games sure its nada's fault for not being prepared but its a pretty bitch strategy to use every game he lost the game he tried to macro so nada should have been expecting it i guess.

Morrow was kind of the same when he played terran he used some very abusive builds but against zerg now , like 5 racks reaper, wich was way cooler though imo requires far more micro and skill.


you're telling me that morrow shouldn't punish his opponents for being greedy? You think that MorroW should let his opponents take risks and for him to sit back and do nothing? We all know MorroW is capable of playing out a macro game.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
LwReisen
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 11:01:26
May 10 2011 10:56 GMT
#838
On May 10 2011 18:32 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Derp, I have no fucking clue about what I'm talking about.



DERP I CAN'T COME UP WITH MY OWN MATERIAL



Oh look, other people (i.e. Cheesemaster) made my argument for me.

The factors would cause lag to BOTH players, because they're BOTH on the SAME internet in the same house.

I hope you don't go taking aim at people like this when you get owned on bnet. umad, but its ok I forgive you.

EDIT: Done with you.

EDIT2: MorroW should play whatever works. He should not change his gamestyle just to look more entertaining, or appeal to the public better. If he wants to baneling bust every single game, then he should. He has every right to. If it gets to the point where it doesn't work, he won't do it - but atm he's simply punishing his opponents for doing more macro-oriented strategies.
MORDEKAIZER ES #1
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 10 2011 12:20 GMT
#839
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.

1) You can ask TOP or Supernova, pretty sure they both saw the lag (thats why I switched computer).

2) Second time I said lag one of the casters dropped 5 seconds later, but that doesnt show in the replay.

3) You are an idiot.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 12:26:47
May 10 2011 12:23 GMT
#840
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.




Two computers set up exactly the same in exactly the same environment sharing exactly the same connection, playing on exactly the same server. How does one lag whilst the other doesn't? Makes no sense unless....

Jinro forgot to turn off his pr0n downloads.

1) My computer is not remotely the same as MCs. Heres a brief history of my computer:
August 2010 - 2011 February~ : Semi-good computer but with broken graphics card causing graphical glitches. Just too lazy to replace it.

February 2011: Replace every part of my computer except for powersupply.
Computer wont work, so we replace the powersupply too. Still doesnt work, new motherboard.

New harddrive breaks, buy new one. Buy new motherboard.

April 2011: New harddrive is faulty causing computer to randomly freeze. Still havent replaced it.

Why did me vs MC lag? I HAVE NO IDEA. I was playing practice games vs oGsJ before these games and it did not lag, I was playing practice games AFTER these and it did not lag.

I honestly have NO idea why it lagged, but it did which is why we switched computers, and even then the first game still lagged (second game was fine as far as I can remember, maybe not early game Im not sure).

On May 10 2011 18:47 BeefEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 18:32 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:30 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 15:15 nihlon wrote:
On May 10 2011 10:26 LwReisen wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:15 Pekkz wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 10 2011 09:05 Azarkon wrote:
Jinro was complaining about lag. I thought Jinro and MC were in the same pro house?


They are, MC's just playing/winning rather than complaining.


MC might have said somthing to jinro rather then typing it. Saying the game has lagg is not complaining anyways, but that might be hard for you to understand


WRONG.

I do not understand how Jinro could be lagging and MC could not be.
Lost a lot of respect for Jinro because of this.


Derp, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Derp, I have no fucking clue about what I'm talking about.



There are muliple factors that could cause lag even in those conditions. I hope you realize lag can be more than simple latancy? Also:

"Two computers set up exactly the same.."

How do you know this? You live in the oGs house? You do realize that things don't magically turn into the same thing just because it's in the same house?



Well everytime I checked one of those artosis's house tours, they alllllll have the same pc's and it seems like they get bought in bulk.

Seems like the most obvious thing to do.

And Jinro is just a crybaby if he blames it on the lagg.

You are an idiot, saying it lags DURING A GAME WHILE IT IS LAGGING BEFORE ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED IN THE GAME is not blaming the loss on lag.

For fucks sake, the first game we played was restarted before a single unit had even died on either side, do you think Im gonna start blaming the future loss on lag that early?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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