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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1401
kinda easy to brain Goody lol, the guys would have win it with like 2 more insta rax after the gate cancel, still trying to get in his confort zone with his mech style, didn't looked like a high level play from him, on the decision making at least :d
In Blizzard's imaginary world, players sit at home devising plans to maximize the usage of destructible rocks (c) Ver
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1402
On April 18 2011 04:09 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:06 w_Ender_w wrote:
Proxy gate gets stopped? Sure.
Forget to cancel the gateway? Whatever.
Accidently stop mining? Who cares.
Try to expand and force it to get chanceled? No big deal.
Four gate anyway and win!

This is quite demoralizing. I hope someone makes some sort of analysis on this game and explains what happened, what did GoOdy do wrong and such.


Pull 90% of your scvs? Awesome
Only kill one of two gateways? Ok
Pull more scvs across the map only to leave on to build bunker? Great
Try to tech and expand while already behind? Sounds reasonable?
Get outplayed and crushed? Lol and looks at the 50+ pages of balance QQ from biased 'know it alls' cuz it was a toss you lost too.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1403
On April 18 2011 04:10 Galcyon wrote:
My question is why didn't Goody send the forces at Nani's natural up into the main? What did Nani have left in the main to defend?


2 zealots and a stalker > 4 marines and a scv

It's surprising how little protoss falls behind with an opening like that.
You do need alot of scvs to take those gates down after all.
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OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1404
On April 18 2011 04:12 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Wow, I was so sure those were photos, how can one draw so perfectly?


Check out his site when you have time, he is awesome.
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Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1405
On April 18 2011 04:13 LongDonJohn wrote:
Dude, can these 2 faggots just stfu and show the goddam game?


Nice first post.
Bye.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
April 17 2011 19:13 GMT
#1406
On April 18 2011 04:12 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:11 Deadlyfish wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:08 mizU wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:07 Deadlyfish wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:05 teamsolid wrote:
Normally, I hate watching 4-gates, but that build was just genius. So many mind games going on there. Very good response from Naniwa.



Haha, what build?

The fail proxy gate, forget to cancel your proxy gate when it's getting killed, then expand, but cancel because 4 marines are coming, then 4 gate and win?

that build?

Silly game, you're better than this goody!


It's hard to tell whether it was a really elaborate build, trying to force the terran to overreact and get ahead just through that, or he just failed with cheese and took advantage of Goody overreacting and getting greedy.



Well actually yea, the way Nani just revealed his gates. Either that was the most stupid move ever, or the most genius move, depending on how you look at it

Still doubt it was intentional though :D


If it was intentional, we have ourselves a new Boxer.

When he put them down it was intentional since the scv was already following his probe but if goody had not walled in and not spotted the probe he probably wanted to hide them.
Dubz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States242 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1407
Does anyone know why Socke didnt participate in the TSL3 ?
" mefjupl: if this game was balanced and we would find two players with almost same skills, in mirror match there would be a draw each game"
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1408
On April 18 2011 04:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:09 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:06 w_Ender_w wrote:
Proxy gate gets stopped? Sure.
Forget to cancel the gateway? Whatever.
Accidently stop mining? Who cares.
Try to expand and force it to get chanceled? No big deal.
Four gate anyway and win!

This is quite demoralizing. I hope someone makes some sort of analysis on this game and explains what happened, what did GoOdy do wrong and such.


Pull 90% of your scvs? Awesome
Only kill one of two gateways? Ok
Pull more scvs across the map only to leave on to build bunker? Great
Try to tech and expand while already behind? Sounds reasonable?
Get outplayed and crushed? Lol and looks at the 50+ pages of balance QQ from biased 'know it alls' cuz it was a toss you lost too.


What the hell.
dusters
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1409
On April 18 2011 04:09 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:06 w_Ender_w wrote:
Proxy gate gets stopped? Sure.
Forget to cancel the gateway? Whatever.
Accidently stop mining? Who cares.
Try to expand and force it to get chanceled? No big deal.
Four gate anyway and win!

This is quite demoralizing. I hope someone makes some sort of analysis on this game and explains what happened, what did GoOdy do wrong and such.

Really? It is pretty obvious that they came out about even with the proxy gates. Naniwa lost 1 gateway and 1 pylon and had to cancel another gateway, but Goody lost a TON of mining time. They came out pretty much even. Goody responded very poorly after seeing Naniwa cancel his Nexus.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1410
On April 18 2011 04:11 AlBundy wrote:
I can't believe people are derailling this awesome LR thread with such stupid balance comments...



Don't lie... you can definitely believe it. This happens every god damn time, and not enough people are banned for it. It gives me a headache when I want to enjoy some good games and have some normal discussion about it, but I have to constantly bump into "WAH!!! HE DID A 4 GATE OMFG SO OP!!!" It's fucking embarrassing and annoying. This is not the place to discuss balance.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1411
On April 18 2011 04:13 LongDonJohn wrote:
Dude, can these 2 faggots just stfu and show the goddam game?


Welcome to TL man! ... see you later on Bnet forums!
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1412
On April 18 2011 04:11 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:09 loveeholicce wrote:
Nani's control is really good


His control is pretty bad he lost his original army of stalkers/zealots to scvs without killing many.

You are a hero, lol. ->door
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1413
haha nani is checking proxy spots. scared of goody's revenge cheese
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1414
On April 18 2011 04:12 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:11 Deadlyfish wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:08 mizU wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:07 Deadlyfish wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:05 teamsolid wrote:
Normally, I hate watching 4-gates, but that build was just genius. So many mind games going on there. Very good response from Naniwa.



Haha, what build?

The fail proxy gate, forget to cancel your proxy gate when it's getting killed, then expand, but cancel because 4 marines are coming, then 4 gate and win?

that build?

Silly game, you're better than this goody!


It's hard to tell whether it was a really elaborate build, trying to force the terran to overreact and get ahead just through that, or he just failed with cheese and took advantage of Goody overreacting and getting greedy.



Well actually yea, the way Nani just revealed his gates. Either that was the most stupid move ever, or the most genius move, depending on how you look at it

Still doubt it was intentional though :D


If it was intentional, we have ourselves a new Boxer.

Well, it almost has to have been, gonna look at the vod when it gets uploaded, but it sure looked like the probe lured the scv to that pylon on purpouse
I have no quote!
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1415
Am I the only one that enjoyed that last game?
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1416
On April 18 2011 04:09 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:06 w_Ender_w wrote:
Proxy gate gets stopped? Sure.
Forget to cancel the gateway? Whatever.
Accidently stop mining? Who cares.
Try to expand and force it to get chanceled? No big deal.
Four gate anyway and win!

This is quite demoralizing. I hope someone makes some sort of analysis on this game and explains what happened, what did GoOdy do wrong and such.

There's no point. Goody could literally have won that game by changing any one of 40 small little things. Getting siege+tank instead of superfast port or expanding slower or an earlier second bunker or pulling more SCVs slightly earlier or really anything else.

All this is besides the 'get another barracks' option that's not really an option for Goody.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1417
In sc1 people had figured out exactly how many drones/probes/scvs needed to attack a gateway to prevent it from spawning a zealot. It's not 9-10, it's more like 5-6.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1418
On April 18 2011 04:09 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:06 w_Ender_w wrote:
Proxy gate gets stopped? Sure.
Forget to cancel the gateway? Whatever.
Accidently stop mining? Who cares.
Try to expand and force it to get chanceled? No big deal.
Four gate anyway and win!

This is quite demoralizing. I hope someone makes some sort of analysis on this game and explains what happened, what did GoOdy do wrong and such.


Being greedy. He made good decisions until he decided to keep his bunker at the natural while teching/expanding at the same time with no army. He could have guessed Nani was too much behind and that the only possible way to get back in the game (not counting Goody playing awfully) was a quick 4gate.

I'm not saying it's easy to make this assumption, especially if you feel bad because of the shaky earlygame.
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ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1419
Goody made the wrong decisions.

That said, it's hard to hate on him for it because it's such a WEIRD SITUATION. How often do you play against proxy 2-gate into fast-expand into 4 warpgate? Many players get into a weird spot when they're playing against something they haven't seen before.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 17 2011 19:14 GMT
#1420
On April 18 2011 04:13 MoonBear wrote:
Match 4: TSL`Xel'Naga Caverns (Crossmap Spawns Only)
[image loading] (P)dignitas.NaNiwa 2 vs 1 [image loading] (T)ESC.GoOdy

[image loading] (P)dignitas.NaNiwa spawns as the Red Protoss @7
[image loading] (T)ESC.GoOdy spawns as the Blue Terran @1

3:00
Naniwa with gate-gas-core, Goody with rax-OC-techlab on rax. Walls off his ramp, and denies the probe scout.
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