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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3541
Cmon Mondi, school this fool! ^_^
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:23:22
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3542
Mondragon didn't really inflict that much damage to Crunchers bases, he managed to save most his probes, while mondi didn't really saturate his bases that well. Looked like he had something like 65 drones only. I think mondi's big mistake besides that was engaging the Vrs with his corrupters instead of the collosus. He could've reinforced with roach, hydra, corrupter after he traded his first army for cruncher's collosus. .
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:23:09
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3543
On April 18 2011 05:19 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:17 garbanzo wrote:
Mondragon really needed more mutas than corruptors. I think they work much better against the void rays.


Guardian shield really really really shuts down Mutas.

There were no sentries in the engagement I was referring to. Mondragon's goal should have been to separate the void rays and colossi from the rest of the army. He was successful right at the end, but he had too many corruptors and they all died to the void rays. If he replaced half those corruptors with mutas, he would have won that engagement.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3544
The irony of that game is Cruncher sitting back all game defending while the Zerg constantly attacking and still couldn't break it but when Cruncher attacks the games over instantly. Zerg needs a serious review and not these tiny little baby buffs that do very little. Cruncher was outplayed that entire game and can still win it even after all that Mondragon was doing to him. I for one don't like to say one race is overpowered but after watching this game I got to say I'm on the edge of saying they are or that Zerg needs to be reviewed and fix the problem with the Zerg units.

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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3545
On April 18 2011 05:21 GameTime wrote:
Entertaining game but Cruncher deserved to win, he was regularly ahead in workers and Mondragon committed A LOT into his harassment and drops.


Deserved to win... Dunno about that m8. But he did win.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3701 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3546
Are these far apart spawn positions good for Mondie?

It is a sad day when Mondie is called mYm.Mondragon
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Duprix
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands17 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3547
On April 18 2011 05:18 da_head wrote:
why do zergs make corrupters against voidrays? they're fuckin terrible against em. have they forgotten how good mass mutas are?


normally there are stalkers in the "a-move" ball and then the muta's are doomed.
Respect all, Fear none!
Designakrobat
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany558 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3548
On April 18 2011 05:21 AeonStrife wrote:
I think game 2 will be talked about for a long time...

understandable. never seen so much relentless attacking from a zerg, ever!
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" -IdrA
Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3549
On April 18 2011 05:20 YoyoDevo wrote:
what was the point of the fleet beacon?

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Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3550
No need to whine, it was simply an overcommitment on drops and too many corruptors on Mondi's part. He still played extremely well.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#3551
On April 18 2011 05:21 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:20 Horse...falcon wrote:
PvZ advice

[image loading]

From Reddit

Idra's nydus worms against Cruncher on Shak for Round 32 didn't work.


that usually happens when you make them in range of cannons.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3552
On April 18 2011 05:20 YoyoDevo wrote:
what was the point of the fleet beacon?


Couldnt see on the tab, but prob for +2 air weapons, and potential mothership, though that obv didnt end up happening.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3553
On April 18 2011 05:22 Sansucal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:18 da_head wrote:
why do zergs make corrupters against voidrays? they're fuckin terrible against em. have they forgotten how good mass mutas are?


well muta die very fast against many stalker

Cruncher didnt have many stalkers
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Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3554
On April 18 2011 05:20 hagrin wrote:
Corruptors fucking suck ass, basically. This game demonstrates just how terrible they are.


It's funny, I ran into the Void Ray + Stalker + Collosus mix today in a game and I was on 5 base, max 200 supply and tried to do what Mondragon did with Corrupter/Roach. I remaxed 3 times losing my entire army 3 times and Mondragon even tried corrupting and still got wiped out.

Pretty sure VR+Stalker+Collosus is invincible vs Zerg and once a Protoss gets there it's completely over.

(I even tried a full remax hydra/roach and lost that army too. Maybe infestor in that situation, don't know really.)[/QUOTE]Build mutas... Mutas scare protoss players big time and their only real counter are blink stalkers. With void/colossi, toss doesn't really have enough gas for mass blink stalkers.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3555
On April 18 2011 05:22 dacthehork wrote:
still so impressed with Cruncher's defense. Splitting up and defending against mondragon. Sick skill and showing he was the better player Huge props to cruncher guys such sick PvZ skill


What?

He almost never splitted, loosing his third and his fourth while his army was scrambling to choose a base in the middle.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3556
Even if Mondragon doesn't win TSL, he's won our hearts. <3
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3557
Or do I need a forge and cannons PRONTO!

Made my second.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3558
the map just completely favored cruncher, yet he was nearly defeated.

let's see on moar open maps.
i predict cruncher going to get CRUSHED.
wat
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3559
On April 18 2011 05:22 Mercury- wrote:
What I'd like to know is, when Day9 says stuff like amazing defense, is he just saying it to keep it professional or does he actually believe it?

Most likely the former. Hopefully...
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
April 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#3560
Wow, close to 3,000 people watching White-Ra's stream. <3

In the middle of TSL no less.
Pew pew!
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