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sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
April 14 2011 06:21 GMT
#3441
not to mention IIRC he didn't make vikings until a scan showed like 6 collosus. ensnare was already almost maxed at that point.

you just can't explain that. was he thinking, "man i hope he doesn't make collosus?"
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
April 14 2011 06:22 GMT
#3442
For the love of god can these guys get better mics. I mean the audio quality isn't my ears are bleeding terrible, but it's definitely not good. For a tourney that has so much in it's prize pool, you figure you could at least take out $100 to buy yourselves better audio recording equipement.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
April 14 2011 06:24 GMT
#3443
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!


DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46371 Posts
April 14 2011 06:26 GMT
#3444
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!




Awesome job

Been watching you since your old old SC1 casts <3

You, Cholera, Klazart, Rise, and Moletrap are the reasons I fell in love with watching pro StarCraft
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 06:31:34
April 14 2011 06:27 GMT
#3445
I love you Diggity <3, you were looking so handsome I think I'd even buy a bible!

To be more on topic awesome games today from what I could see, big props to incontrol, I had a bit of money riding on that one so it was a real nail biter when he pulled it out . Awesome tactics from qxc, (credit to Blur (I think ><) for that build from game 1, dates back to EG masters cup!) great build choice on game one, perfect for that map even if it didn't work, I really wouldn't have expected such a rush to so many mutas, that build can crush if they don't have quite enough mutas, but zerg takes out those unupgraded marines you're done for. Super solid play from Sjow of course too!
naolin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
April 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#3446
I really don't understand all the comments about "My ears are bleeding" maybe i've lost some hearing from listening to loud music or some people just have real sensitive ears but the sound was just fine for me.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11106 Posts
April 14 2011 06:29 GMT
#3447
Overall once again I was pretty pleased. The intermissions felt like forever but no biggie.

Jesus. So much hate for Gretorp and it almost seems irrational -.-

<3 for more diggity :D


Diggity could you let Cholera know we still <3 him if you have any contact at all with your voice of esports team. Great Cast today.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
April 14 2011 06:31 GMT
#3448
Ensnare is catching a lot of flak for throwing away the game (not harassing, no vikings/medivacs/thors, etc.)

I kind of understand why Ensnare went heavy on only marine/marauder. I feel like he depended on 2 things:

A) hoping to catch iNcontrol's army out of positon

This would be very likely seeing as how iNcontrol has a tendency to move his army in one big group to stop harass. In fact, at one point he moved his whole army to his 3rd and left the entrance to his main and natural undefended. Ensnare tried to take the opportunity way too late and ended up engaging in a bad position, costing him the game.

or B) base trade

The map was fairly large and had a lot of open space in the center. If iNcontrol decided to push out in the same fashion as he did in game 1, Ensnare would easily win a base race situation.

In either case, I feel like he underestimated iNcontrol. Like others have mentioned, if he just went with a more standard army composition, he wouldn't have to rely on iNcontrol's mistakes.
I am an idiot who knows only about gaming, so there is nothing private to talk about to begin with. - Bisu
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 14 2011 06:31 GMT
#3449
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!




GJ today, and I gotta say, I can always respect someone who responds directly to the community. I hope to see more in the near future.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
April 14 2011 06:32 GMT
#3450
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

+ Show Spoiler +
Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.


Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!



I had never heard of you(I'm a nub) but my god you are perfect for the NASL. Hope to see more of you!
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 14 2011 06:32 GMT
#3451
On April 14 2011 15:28 naolin wrote:
I really don't understand all the comments about "My ears are bleeding" maybe i've lost some hearing from listening to loud music or some people just have real sensitive ears but the sound was just fine for me.


It's really only when Gretorp gets excited and screams. I've physically had to lower the volume on my speakers when he starts screaming in order not to make too much noise and wake up the girlfriend. It really goes to a whole other level.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
April 14 2011 06:32 GMT
#3452
On April 14 2011 15:28 naolin wrote:
I really don't understand all the comments about "My ears are bleeding" maybe i've lost some hearing from listening to loud music or some people just have real sensitive ears but the sound was just fine for me.


Because the sound is half the experience, and there's so much "noise" in the sound that's it's not coming out clear.

I dunno, maybe the people who pay and get the hq stream are getting better audio, but the sq audio is bad.
hhkx
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada757 Posts
April 14 2011 06:33 GMT
#3453
gretorp tried too hard. Whenever there is a big battle, he gets excited and loud very abruptly, which is so annoying. I am not sure if he is trying to copy Korean commentator's style from SC1, but it ain't working for him. Diggity's style on the other hand is very smooth and calm, really enjoyed his commentating, definitely one of the best there is. Also that random commentator with strong European accent felt very unprofessional for a big events like this.Also I would not buy a NASL pass if this gretorp guy keeps casting, it ruins the experience knowing how good it could be with Diggity casting.

nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 14 2011 06:34 GMT
#3454
On April 14 2011 14:47 cca1ss1e wrote:
yeah great casting of course.. I wish I could here more proper usage of unit names/weapons and upgrades from casters.

things like assimilators/refineries/extractors, glial reconstitution, centrifugal hooks, pneumatized carapace.. you're not researching thermal lance, it already exists.. it's EXTENDED thermal lance.

lolz.. anyway, was fun tonight, ggs.

XD


Number of sc2 tournaments where the casters use vernacular descriptions ("baneling speed", etc.): all of them

Number of people who don't like that: 1 (cca1ss1e)
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 06:40:45
April 14 2011 06:38 GMT
#3455
On April 14 2011 14:57 Jman5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 14:51 Haydin wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:45 ihavetofartosis wrote:
Just to all you guys saying not to let him get that army, do you remember Ensnare trying to engage earlier in the game, but got forcefielded off at the ramp? He is unable to engage because it's physically impossible ie. forcefields were casted.


Ghosts can try to snipe sentries with emp. There are also dropships, which can force toss to split his army between his natural, 3rd, and ramp. And thors can walk over FFs.

Ensnare stayed on only rax for waaaaaaay too long.


You know one of the really clever things that Incontrol did that I don't think enough people noticed was his use of the phoenix. Ensnare was planning on pulling incontrol apart with drops all around, but Incontrol immediately shut it down so hard with those phoenix.

It reminded me of what they were talking about on SOTG in BW. Zerg would use scourge to shut down terran drop harass.


The phoenix was a risky gamble. Just like how Incontrol took a really fast 3rd to catch up in game 2 (which he subsequently lost to a sizable mm force), he did the same in game 3 but with phoenixes. Ensnare attacked in game 2, but not in game 3. That's why he won game 2 but not game 3.
Pew pew!
kirbynator
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada503 Posts
April 14 2011 06:45 GMT
#3456
phoenix were for blindcountering the only way ensnare could win, with a ton of vikings.

if it can stop drops its a bonus
Ryno00
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia19 Posts
April 14 2011 06:45 GMT
#3457
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!


thanks for the guest spot dude, untill sock puppet or cloning technology advances to the point iNcontrol can play and cast at the same time =p
- "a 6 Rax!!?? Say something Gretorp, were witnessing history" - iNcontrol
Lightwish01
Profile Joined April 2011
65 Posts
April 14 2011 06:45 GMT
#3458
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!





Great Job tonight Diggity!!! I REALLY TRULY hope they take you on full time as you really bring a level of professionalism to the show!
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
April 14 2011 06:46 GMT
#3459
I'll try to explain this so people understand it.

InControl had a massive supply deficit, for a while at least. However, the quality of his supply was overall higher than Ensnare's. Think of it this way. Which is stronger in a big 200/200 fight? 3 Stalkers, or 1 Colossus? Both cost the same amount of food. It's the same principle with Void Ray-Colossus versus Zerg, where 2 Void Rays costs the same amount of food as 3 Roaches (6 food, Void Rays are 3 food each), yet 3 roaches don't even cost as much resources as ONE Void Ray.

The style Ensnare played involves fielding a large, low tech army quickly, and using the ability to be aggressive and mobile to expand very aggressively and keep his opponent trapped in his base, wearing down his more efficient army with the sheer weight of macro and numbers and the ability to be in multiple places at once, dealing small amounts over time, amounting to a very large amount of damage in the end. Against the Protoss deathball in particular, this can be strong because the deathball relies on all the units being grouped together to be effective. Colossi alone are giant targets without a supporting army.

To make this strategy work though, being aggressive is a requirement. He needed to be poking and prodding InControl constantly, dealing small damage here and there. Think of it like a Zerg player going muta-ling-bling in ZvT, because it's much the same idea here for the Terran player. Unfortunately, he wasn't doing that, and if you want to blame the map for that, then it's Ensnare's poor choice for using this strategy on a map that weakens its viability.

Having done too little damage with this style and putting on little pressure, Ensnare allowed InControl to turtle off three bases and build up a 200/200 army that while having the same food cost, was in fact MUCH larger than Ensnare's when you factor in the cost of the units and their efficiency (6 Marines = 1 Colossus in food. 1 Marauder = 1 Phoenix in food). InControl's army was more expensive than Ensnare's, and it crushed his. To draw another comparison, imagine a TvT, where one player is going almost pure bio to 200/200, while the other has about 15 upgraded siege tanks, supported with a smaller bio army and a few supporting Vikings and Medivacs. Ensnare did the TvP equivalent of suiciding his basically pure bio army into that huge ball of sieged tanks, and he got absolutely destroyed...as he should have. Nobody would argue about that happening in TvT.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
April 14 2011 06:48 GMT
#3460
On April 14 2011 15:24 Diggity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming positive reaction!

Just to clarify some things
1) I am married. Very happily so! This isn't a huge obstacle as I am within a 2 hour driving distance from the studio and my wife is very supportive.

2) I work full time at DivX encoding video (www.divx.com) (I actually set the encodes to go to justin.tv so if the baseline quality is bad you can blame me)

3) I am a partner with youtube now. I do get a substantial amount from ad revenue but no where near enough to replace a full time salary. I hope to one day make enough to at least go part time at work (if such a situation would be amenable with my boss)

It's somewhat difficult with my work situation as we just went through two major mergers and things still haven't settled out. I am hoping to sneak more days off to work with the NASL.

Again thanks for all the support! Keep watching and providing feedback as the NASL team aims to improve with every cast!



Dude honestly you were great! nice to see you actually come on the forum and explain your situation to us as im sure we would all love to see you in more of the NASL. Honestly you raised the quality of the casting 10 fold but i totally understand that you have a job and a life as much as id want to see you there full time :D. Either way try and get as many days off as you can it would be great to see more of you pretty much everyone here agrees your casting is of the highest caliber and you could teach the other casters in the NASL i thing or 2 (and hopefully already have)
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