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bronzeterran
Profile Joined September 2010
United States296 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3321
Gretorp's commentary improved a lot in a day. At 480, the stream looks pretty good. Watching today was a pleasure.
willz22912
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3322
Really silly play by Ensnare there, he saw at least 3-4 Colossus with his scan's I'm pretty sure he does enough TvP in the OGS house to see what happens with pure bio vs Colossi. Also yeah, it's Tal'darim Altar, with the supply lead Ensnare had he coulda flanked from 2 directions at least to avoid getting FF'd that badly. Or a lot earlier with like ~60 supply from the back and the rest from the front =(
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3323
On April 14 2011 14:32 -_- wrote:
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On April 14 2011 14:30 Devolved wrote:
I still say ban that fucker -_- that spoiled the game and then said he was only guessing to save face.



Yeesh, how the hell could I have known? I've never spoiled anything in my life. I don't check match histories, and I think NASL even found a way to hide it. I had no clue man, but ultimately you think what you want.


It's okay, just don't cry wolf again.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3324
Good stuff today. That last game made waiting around worth it lol.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3325
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote:
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On April 14 2011 14:33 Jibba wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:31 nodule wrote:
HOW DID HE WIN THAT GAME?????

Ensnare's factory was incredibly late, and when he did engage it was anti-timing.

iNc was never very far behind, I have no idea why Gretorp thought that. He had his first collosus out and second almost finished, with range finished, as Ensnare was just starting to build his first Starport. That, combined with the 6 full energy sentries that he kept alive meant iNc was perfectly safe from Ensnare's pure infantry army.

Well played by iNc, but it was hardly an amazing comeback unless you only look at supplies.


Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports.

"Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke.

Edit: Nothing against incontrol. Played your race perfectly there.


The major engagement Incontrol just finished 2/2 I believe and Ensares 3/3 wasn't finished. No idea why people keep talking about upgrades when they were both 2/2 in the crucial fight.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3326
On April 14 2011 14:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Ensnare supply blocked himself 3 times in a row, didnt make enough ccs when he was far ahead ( yes he was far ahead, stop playing this game if you think otherwise) got a very late factory and attacked before 3-3 upgrade finished, an overall terrible play for a code S player.


He was lagging yo. I think he would've played a lot better if we had LAN
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3327
On April 14 2011 14:36 ceciljacobs wrote:
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On April 14 2011 14:33 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:32 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Defend til 200/200 is going to be the next big thing in the ladder for P v T.

No, getting nothing but pure bio isn't going to be the next big thing on ladder.


right. terran should be supplementing their bio with beefy dps units right? like colossus? terran have colossus right?


Yeah, because terrans only have tier one mass barracks and when they max out on 60 marines and 30 marauders should be able to win versus an equal supply army with higher tech and equal upgrades.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 05:40:24
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3328
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 14:33 Jibba wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:31 nodule wrote:
HOW DID HE WIN THAT GAME?????

Ensnare's factory was incredibly late, and when he did engage it was anti-timing.

iNc was never very far behind, I have no idea why Gretorp thought that. He had his first collosus out and second almost finished, with range finished, as Ensnare was just starting to build his first Starport. That, combined with the 6 full energy sentries that he kept alive meant iNc was perfectly safe from Ensnare's pure infantry army.

Well played by iNc, but it was hardly an amazing comeback unless you only look at supplies.


Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports.

"Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke.


Attacking with a 60 food lead would be required to hold things accountable. Letting 3/3 actually finish before attacking would also help.

That's similar to not making any siege tanks vs mass banelings. Colossi are meant to hard counter bio, and Inc's phoenix's were perfectly prepared for the small viking numbers.

As Inc said on stream to the Gretorp's comment about the 70 food melting: "That's what 8 untouched colossi will do"

Stop the Q.Q please
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
April 14 2011 05:39 GMT
#3329
Diggity is amazing, great job. Professional Caster to the fullest.
RogueStatus
Profile Joined August 2010
266 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3330
Diggity did well. I enjoy his casting and it's nice to put a face to the name from the GCPL. There are so many games man, I get home from work, NASL starts. NASL ends.. it's time for bed. I'm not sure if I can do this for 9 weeks I'll go insane. lol
lockedCAPS
Profile Joined March 2011
United States76 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3331
i feel its not long before a hero unit and killing rocks grants XP
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3332
On April 14 2011 14:38 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:33 Jibba wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:31 nodule wrote:
HOW DID HE WIN THAT GAME?????

Ensnare's factory was incredibly late, and when he did engage it was anti-timing.

iNc was never very far behind, I have no idea why Gretorp thought that. He had his first collosus out and second almost finished, with range finished, as Ensnare was just starting to build his first Starport. That, combined with the 6 full energy sentries that he kept alive meant iNc was perfectly safe from Ensnare's pure infantry army.

Well played by iNc, but it was hardly an amazing comeback unless you only look at supplies.


Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports.

"Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke.

Yeah, it should've been a BO loss but Gretorp was going on about how far behind iNc was, after his collosi production had already kicked in. 30 supply of infantry against FF/collusus is nothing.

It was smart play by inc to not attack and just wait and try and get his army maxed out. If he would have moved out at all beforehand, he would have gotten stomped pretty bad.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Freebirdo7
Profile Joined February 2011
United States163 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3333
So happy iNcontrol won, he is one of my favorite SC personaltys and all around nice guy. He looked soooo good game 1 and had a great comeback game 3.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3334
They need to get diggity into the studio to do more casts! He was really really good - i guess if iNcontrol plays more games, we will see more of diggity haha

Ensnare completely messed up his tech there - he delayed his vikings way to much to go bio only - and allowed iNcontrol to hit the money number of collossus; great game to watch though, very entertaining!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
sleigh bells
Profile Joined April 2011
United States358 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3335
On April 14 2011 14:37 Ravomat wrote:
instead of going for barracks 5-8 ensnare should have gone for reactored medievacs and start dropping. he got away with a greedy opening and didnt do anything with it.

i don't think it's "greedy," it's "oh hey d00d, you just put yourself on a clock, you need to attack...oh wait tiny ramp lol, you should've made medivacs"
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3336
Colossus are pretty good. Gratz to incontrol for winning. Eager to see what tricks Terrans and Zerg figure out to break a turtle toss with easy access to 3 base. This game reminded me of turtle style TvZ in SC1. Maybe Terran in SC2 will have to play like Zerg in SC1 by taking the whole map with Orbitals, mules, and a bunch of unit producing structures. That way they can hurl units and remax instantly with an insane economy and starve out the Protoss.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3337
On April 14 2011 14:38 unSpeake wrote:
Really enjoyed diggity's casting. Very smooth talker and doesn't try to analyze things to heavily over the player/caster gretorp.

yeah this diggity fellow is really good

i've only heard his name in passing, but call me a fan now
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3338
On April 14 2011 14:40 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 14:38 unSpeake wrote:
Really enjoyed diggity's casting. Very smooth talker and doesn't try to analyze things to heavily over the player/caster gretorp.

yeah this diggity fellow is really good

i've only heard his name in passing, but call me a fan now


Him and CholeraSC...simply legendary casters
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
anzient
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark119 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3339
Disappointing games today :/
"Protoss make phoenix, Terran make banchee, Protoss win" <3 MC
tidus1492
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada12 Posts
April 14 2011 05:40 GMT
#3340
gretorp is the worst caster I've ever seen, including all the stand-ins that gomtv had during tasteless/artosis' absence.
Proud supporter of replacing Gretorp as a caster for NASL.
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