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sniverty
United States72 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 ceciljacobs wrote: right. terran should be supplementing their bio with beefy dps units right? like colossus? terran have colossus right? Well, Ensnare did need a lot more vikings. But it is kinda retarded that protoss can defend so easily on Taldarim Altar till 200/200. | ||
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confusedcrib
United States1307 Posts
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:34 sleigh bells wrote: i don't know that proves that people just like to watch 200/200 battles above all else, or just like it when koreans lose. terribly boring, knew he was gonna lose once he let inc get to 150+ It was all the suspense leading up to it. Incontrol was behind the entire game, and most people were expecting him to lose, but then he's still alive...he's still alive...and just jumps massively ahead. It was ensnares game to lose, and lose it he did. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote: Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports. "Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke. As a terran you cannot get a factory that late and expect to win against toss it just wont work, and not getting ghosts until the after the decisive engagement is a smart move either. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Werx
United States54 Posts
If you didn't see what happened, ensnare lead his army with his vikings when Inc lead his with his phoenix. The vikings went down quickly, when the MM and Colossus/stalker ball engaged, Inc threw down 7-8 perfectly timed forcefields which actually stopped about 70% of Ensnare's M+M ball from firing. Not even his stalker/sentry ball was in range of the ff'ed off M+M ball so Incontrol came out about 80 supply up. Thought this would help the people posting "LOLCOLOSSUSIMBA", "my joints hurt", and all that. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 sleigh bells wrote: i didn't watch sjow game but i'm guessing he didn't sit on his hands, pace the map, and let TT1 get to 200/200. i wonder if TT1 still thinks he's better than MKP lawl Exactly my point. Ensnare didn't do what Sjow did. It has nothing to do with any racial imbalance or crap like that, but instead the difference was in decision making. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 ceciljacobs wrote: right. terran should be supplementing their bio with beefy dps units right? like colossus? terran have colossus right? Terran has beefy units, like battlecruisers, thors, siege tanks, and they have AoE casters (Raven/Ghost). Ensnare had none of these when the engagement came, he didn't even have more than 2 vikings or medivacs to support the bio army. Bio is really really BAD in large numbers. It's good in middlish numbers, and pretty decent in smallish numbers. You NEVER want to max on pure bio and then attack in one big ball, just awful play. Toss can easily defend against ground based bio aggression on Tal'darim altar, this is true, but not against siege tank pushes (go watch TT1 vs. Marinekingprime in the GSL world championships), and also not easily against banshee play. | ||
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Poyo
Canada790 Posts
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote: Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports. "Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke. Yeah, it should've been a BO loss but Gretorp was going on about how far behind iNc was, after his collosi production had already kicked in. 30 supply of infantry against FF/collusus is nothing. | ||
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funkyfritter
353 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: And yesterday's results lmao... The anti-Protoss qq is ridiculous, whereas the Protosses don't whine whenever they lose to Zergs or Terrans. Balance aside, there's been plenty of protoss whining about terran infantry pushes since the beta. | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:35 DoctorClock wrote: Ensare went almost pure Bio. Incontrol went mass Colossus + Phoenix with double upgrades. Ensnare didn't punish Incontrol for going so techy and let Inc macro up an unstoppable army. Worth throwing this out there. Going mass bio with 4-5 Vikings, and then attacking Pheonix with the vikings tends to lose to 6-7 Collosi. Ensnare made a LOT of mistakes. Incontrol capitalized on said mistakes. Has nothing to do with Balance. That, and Ensnare was 200 before Incontrol was 150, but just sat back doing nothing. | ||
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PourLaGloire
United States376 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:36 Mercadia wrote: Did you see the base timings? Ensnare was ahead by 1-1 in upgrades before incontrol started 1-1, he was 30 food ahead, and a base ahead while dropping two starports. "Praise be to Tal'Darim Altar for those ramps and chokes otherwise I was toast" is what incontrol just said on stream. Cause it's true. Without forcefield and colossus Protoss might be held accountable for falling behind in games. Such a joke. Edit: Nothing against incontrol. Played your race perfectly there. Wait, so you're saying that you have to play different races... differently? QQing all over TL is simply not constructive in the least bit. | ||
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Speake
United States494 Posts
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ekaj
United States174 Posts
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