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MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8781
Idra's composition could've been better, but he was in a bad situation after his weird decision to not take his third after killing off a bunch of sentries. Zerg needs to be ahead in workers, and he was behind, which probably led to him cutting upgrades/hydras
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8782
idra's corruptor amount was a coinflip. kiwi did an AMAZING job deflecting overlords so idra couldnt see his colossi count. idra only saw 2 robo bays which usually indicates many colossi
implying Suzy isn't perfect
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8783
On April 02 2011 13:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Not gonna constantly LR the iNcontroL vs. TLO match. Sorry


Thanks for all the LRs you did
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AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 04:36:03
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8784
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*edit* stream just froze, not crashed
dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8785
The BIC commercial was awesome, I don't know what is wrong with the rest of you.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 04:36:03
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8786
On April 02 2011 13:31 Haydin wrote:
Idra really looked like he just didn't quite have the feeling on whether he could all-in with his early roach push or not. This is something pretty new from him (I think), so I'm not surprised his transitioning isn't as fast or smooth as it is from some of his older builds. Still though, he looks like a completely different player than what we saw in the TSL matches. Idra looks a lot less rigid, and appears to be really growing as a player. Considering how skilled he is already, that's a pretty scary proposition.


I think he's just trying to capitalize on a timing he learned in the past month but locks himself into that build even after it fails. He's pretty stubborn with his builds.
There's no S in KT. :P
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8787
Now that qxc is gone, Kiwi and Drewbie are there only good players.


QXC is not part of ROOT anymore and your underestimating how much Destiny has improved recently.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8788
On April 02 2011 13:33 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 13:27 koolaid1990 wrote:
On April 02 2011 13:25 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Idra's weakness is blink stalkers.

wrong. this is every zerg's weakness. Sen lost to it. Dimaga lost to it. And Idra lost to it.



This. Is easy for anybody who doesn't play zerg to say Kiwikaki is a total boss and that IdrA made a plethora of mistakes but really, there's a difference between going all-in just because you want to, and going all-in because you know there's a unit composition you will lose to, no matter what. Still, good for Kiwikaki, but I'll only jump in the "IdrA, eat your words!!!" bandwagon when CatZ beats him in a ZvZ.


The best part of it is when people say stuff like speedlings would be so amazing!111!!!! against it.

When in reality, you have 30 stalkers shooting at 600 zerglings but only 30 of the zerglings are even hitting and the stalkers that get low just blink to the back/up a cliff/down a cliff/up my ass.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46214 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8789
On April 02 2011 13:33 koolaid1990 wrote:
as idra said, most of root is mediocre. Catz aint all that amazing, qxc left. Kiwikaki and drewbie are the only ones who are good.


I think MInigun's really good too.
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Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8790

On April 02 2011 13:32 asdfTT123 wrote:
WHAT IDRA?

ROOT GAMING MEDIOCRE???? ROFLROFLROFL

WHAT WHAT WHAATTTTTTT?!!!!!!


idra does show respect for Kiwikaki
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PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8791
On April 02 2011 13:33 koolaid1990 wrote:
as idra said, most of root is mediocre. Catz aint all that amazing, qxc left. Kiwikaki and drewbie are the only ones who are good.


Then most of EG is mediocre because Machine, LZGamer, and Incontrol have done much less than ROOT at MLG and other offline events. Only Idra and DeMuslim are good.
Lori.
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany97 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8792
Kiwi is from canada and can't speak english? Oo
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8793
On April 02 2011 13:34 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 13:34 AngryPolarBear wrote:
On April 02 2011 13:30 Ksi wrote:
On April 02 2011 13:29 AngryPolarBear wrote:
Hydras definitely help against the protoss ball but not as much as one would think. To take that 30 blink stalker count you need almost pure hydraling. It's a weird balancing act between your roach and hydras. Guess wrong and lights out


Yep, the onus is always on the Zerg to somehow scout as if he has a maphack to create a composition that doesn't just melt in seconds.


Well it's not that difficult to scout but the frequency that you need to is pretty difficult. Goes something like
scout 1 colossus -> 4 corrupters (or 5,6 something like that)
scout another colossus -> 4 more
scout twilight -> hydralisks
- if protoss has X colossus you make Y hydralisks.

This is diffcult because zerg macros in bursts


So instead of not building Colossus, he hides two colossus and you still lose.


You don't though. Only two collosus don't really matter if you have 40 hydras.
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8794
I play Toss, but I'm definitely rooting for TLO.
duck.fit
Profile Joined October 2008
United States241 Posts
April 02 2011 04:35 GMT
#8795
On April 02 2011 13:34 Suerte wrote:
MLG will be releasing all of the replays after the tournament yes? I'm missing a lot of the games


last time they linked them into the brackets after the end of the day
Purple and red and yellow and on fire
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
April 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#8796
N/A age from Incontrol? Wtf, how could he not give them his age lol.
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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
April 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#8797
to big and confusing for me to enjoy the tournament.
Nijha
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada33 Posts
April 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#8798
Did the stream die?
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#8799
that retarded laugh
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 04:38:25
April 02 2011 04:36 GMT
#8800
On April 02 2011 13:33 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 13:28 jayt88 wrote:
On April 02 2011 13:25 proxY_ wrote:
I haven't won a pvz where I've gone roach/hydra/corruptor in months when both sides have hit pop (obviously you can win if you have the food lead). It feels like you're beating your head against the wall.


That is zerg for you. You're supposed to be in a huge food lead due to denying expansions and not over committing on attacks. If you fight 200 vs 200 against terran or protoss ur gonna lose. Simple logic and it was SC2 was made that way.
If you dont abuse your speedling's insane speed, you're just being dumb. There's no way a toss or terran can push out without over committing (unless of course you allow him to get his near max pop army)


thats EXACTLY what I dont understand.. why are zergs thinking this is possible, on small chokes non the less like Idra in that game and DImaga earlier today?? It blows my mind people think 200 zerg food is equal to 200 P/T food.. Not to mention zergs ALWAYS have way more drones, which means even less of an army in food count..

But seriously, go play BW for one second. Has 200 food zerg ever beat 200 food P or T in a head up battle on BW?? You would NEVER send 200 food of zerg into a 200 food P deathball of stalker/archon/zealot, even with dark swarm.. The game hasnt changed at all, yet somehow zergs think their race should be the cheapest, fastest AND strongest too. you already got two, cant have three.


200/200 Z hive does perfectly fine vs T esp after infestor buff. and 200/200 teched Z does damn well vs t/p in broodwar(not to mention 3+ bases actually mattering and having a realy macro advantage and "deathball" just not existing).




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