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ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
March 30 2011 12:27 GMT
#3341
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The glorious taste of victory!
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
March 30 2011 12:27 GMT
#3342
On March 30 2011 21:10 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:09 Blaz3k wrote:
Why is there an American flag? There are no American players in this tournament o.O
And Germany too rofl

I'm guessing they made that video before the qualification was done and there were Germans / Americans in it.



Pretty sure TT1 and Huk are American, both from the state of Canada iirc.
Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
March 30 2011 12:27 GMT
#3343
Too bad Dimaga didnt beat Nestea yesterday
gustavo
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil38 Posts
March 30 2011 12:28 GMT
#3344
He wasn't playing seriously yesterday.
hmmmmgh
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 30 2011 12:28 GMT
#3345
On March 30 2011 21:27 iNbluE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:25 mcc wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:08 iNbluE wrote:
I'm still sad for White-Ra though... He could have 4 gated and just win game 2

I don't think he likes 4-gate PvP(other P's also, but they use it more). He said that PvP is his worst matchup and from recent tourneys I think it is true. He can defeat anyone in beautiful games, but early game he often makes blunders that in PvP are too deadly. Sad that he got PvP wanted to see more of his games.


He barely not defended the 4 warpgate push when he had his 4th gate like 2 minutes later.... Seriously, if he'd done a regular four gate, san wouldn't have stood a chance.


san prooobably wouldn't have attacked if white-ra didnt do 2 gate every game
Talaf
Profile Joined March 2011
21 Posts
March 30 2011 12:29 GMT
#3346
On March 30 2011 21:22 OnlineHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:19 ZeraToss wrote:
hey guys i just tuned in, how the hell did dimaga won against the 100% win for nestea in zvz.

pls give me an answer

im so happy for him, he is sooo sympathic


Dimaga lost first game as he went banelings vs. roaches.

Dimaga won second game with a 10 pool all in vs nestea's hatch first.

Dimaga won third game macro style by gaining little advantages through out the game. Like catching a group of lings. He was just getting his stuff faster than nestea, like faster third, faster upgrades, faster hydra den while staying pretty equal on drones.


He had a slight advantage since the beginning. I didn't catch the time when he powered the 3rd but by this time it already felt it was his game to lose.

ZvZ is crazy but I love it. It comes down to scouting and timings even more so than the other Z matchups because you have to react to droning and tech on top of unit comps. I lose lots of them but I never feel "angry" about ZvZ, I feel outplayed. And on the 3rd game Dimaga pretty much outplayed Nestea. Not saying he's better than him or anything, but it felt like a state of the art, pure, academic ZvZ win on every count
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
March 30 2011 12:29 GMT
#3347
On March 30 2011 21:28 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:27 iNbluE wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:25 mcc wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:08 iNbluE wrote:
I'm still sad for White-Ra though... He could have 4 gated and just win game 2

I don't think he likes 4-gate PvP(other P's also, but they use it more). He said that PvP is his worst matchup and from recent tourneys I think it is true. He can defeat anyone in beautiful games, but early game he often makes blunders that in PvP are too deadly. Sad that he got PvP wanted to see more of his games.


He barely not defended the 4 warpgate push when he had his 4th gate like 2 minutes later.... Seriously, if he'd done a regular four gate, san wouldn't have stood a chance.


san prooobably wouldn't have attacked if white-ra didnt do 2 gate every game


So you make 4 gates to not attack and let white get his robo? C'mon..
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
March 30 2011 12:29 GMT
#3348
On March 30 2011 21:26 HolyArrow wrote:
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On March 30 2011 21:20 VonBlucher wrote:
I'm not sure I would call Dimaga a -better- player yet than Nestea, but he's certainly proven he's on the same level, which when you think about it is insanely crazy already. It's a Bo3, which numerous amounts of pros have said are still not very good judges of true player skills, and of course Game 2 was some crazy metagame build order win.

But in game 3, we see Dimaga really is at Nestea's level, or at least that's how it appears. Nestea loses a queen early and a TON of zerglings in an overextended early aggression, after that Dimaga is just ALWAYS ahead. Nestea and Dimaga were playing almost exactly the same, but Dimaga was just a couple moves ahead because of some mistakes Nestea made. To play ZvZ like that, on Nestea's level, a guy who until tonight was undefeated in ZvZ in tournament matches while playing some of the best Korean Zergs, is a crazy thing to believe.

Is Dimaga better than Nestea? Lets wait a couple weeks or even months and see how things go guys, it was just one set after all guys, and it was VERY VERY VERY close at that. Whatever the case those, Dimaga continues to impress, San's ZvP seems good though, tough match coming his way.


Always good to have a voice of reason around. Hearing statements like "dethroned the King of ZvZ" being thrown around so casually is a bit annoying.


But Nestea HAS been dethroned. After not losing any ZvZ game at all, dropping a Bo3 is a huge deal. That doesn't mean Dimaga is the new kind or even that he's a better player than Nestea.

Just means that Nestea is no longer undeafeted. No reason to play an awesome moment like this down.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
March 30 2011 12:30 GMT
#3349
I think what a lot of people are missing is that Dimaga playing NesTea in that final game of the Team League is what really prepared Dimaga in beating NesTea today. Dimaga was able to see what he could and couldn't do against NesTea and that loss really got to him.

That 3rd game on Terminus RE was like a redo for Dimaga, and this time he made all the right decisions, all the right reads, and knew when to squeeze in drones.

All in all, great series by Dimaga.
Sickworld
Profile Joined March 2011
437 Posts
March 30 2011 12:30 GMT
#3350
On March 30 2011 21:26 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:20 VonBlucher wrote:
I'm not sure I would call Dimaga a -better- player yet than Nestea, but he's certainly proven he's on the same level, which when you think about it is insanely crazy already. It's a Bo3, which numerous amounts of pros have said are still not very good judges of true player skills, and of course Game 2 was some crazy metagame build order win.

But in game 3, we see Dimaga really is at Nestea's level, or at least that's how it appears. Nestea loses a queen early and a TON of zerglings in an overextended early aggression, after that Dimaga is just ALWAYS ahead. Nestea and Dimaga were playing almost exactly the same, but Dimaga was just a couple moves ahead because of some mistakes Nestea made. To play ZvZ like that, on Nestea's level, a guy who until tonight was undefeated in ZvZ in tournament matches while playing some of the best Korean Zergs, is a crazy thing to believe.

Is Dimaga better than Nestea? Lets wait a couple weeks or even months and see how things go guys, it was just one set after all guys, and it was VERY VERY VERY close at that. Whatever the case those, Dimaga continues to impress, San's ZvP seems good though, tough match coming his way.


Always good to have a voice of reason around. Hearing statements like "dethroned the King of ZvZ" being thrown around so casually is a bit annoying.

No doubt, Dimaga deserves his win 100%, but the conclusions a few people are jumping to are ridiculous. That's why I posted earlier about how it's too bad they're probably not going to play each other for a very long time, if ever, in a tournament setting, so Nestea will never have the chance to try for his revenge (or, if Dimaga's really THAT good and solid at ZvZ, Dimaga won't have his chance to truly prove that his ZvZ is better than Nestea's)


I think the main difference between the two is that Dimaga seems more flexible with his builds, he can range from a July-like aggression to a more passive macro Nestea-like game. Having a very diversed play style makes Dimaga a scary opponent to face.
Leave it to me
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 30 2011 12:31 GMT
#3351
Imo HuK should try and quickly fly to Amer and see if he can Compete through the open bracket of MLG I'm sure they have some Byes in the first round :D:D:D:D.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
qwert_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany31 Posts
March 30 2011 12:31 GMT
#3352
On March 30 2011 21:28 gustavo wrote:
He wasn't playing seriously yesterday.


hahaha awesome
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 12:34:55
March 30 2011 12:32 GMT
#3353
On March 30 2011 21:14 blAke139 wrote:
to the HuK mocking:

I just don't get you people. Bullying HuK for losing to MVP. Always mocking HuK just for something he said months ago. What about you start remembering good and honest things he did and does. He actually wrote on his facebook wall like 15 minutes ago:

Sorry everyone, I really don't know what else to say ...

Tell me about another pro who is actually apologizing to his fans when not playing as well as he could. I'm not a fanboy, I just don't get the mocking.

And oh yeah.
GO DIMAGA!!!


Lots of players apologize to fans in interviews after bad performances... HuK never gives credit to opponents when he loses, always talks about himself and how good he is, just not very likeable. There is a different between months ago and weeks ago. But he's always full of himself.

And due to the fact he can't even support his arrogant behaviour with results despite practising in korea, he gets lots of people mocking him.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
March 30 2011 12:33 GMT
#3354
DIMAGA FIGHTING!
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 30 2011 12:34 GMT
#3355
On March 30 2011 21:27 iNbluE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:25 mcc wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:08 iNbluE wrote:
I'm still sad for White-Ra though... He could have 4 gated and just win game 2

I don't think he likes 4-gate PvP(other P's also, but they use it more). He said that PvP is his worst matchup and from recent tourneys I think it is true. He can defeat anyone in beautiful games, but early game he often makes blunders that in PvP are too deadly. Sad that he got PvP wanted to see more of his games.


He barely not defended the 4 warpgate push when he had his 4th gate like 2 minutes later.... Seriously, if he'd done a regular four gate, san wouldn't have stood a chance.

I know, he definitely could do four-gate and defend, but I was trying to say that he seems to use it only as last resort and that is often too late.
gslavik
Profile Joined August 2010
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 12:36:48
March 30 2011 12:34 GMT
#3356
YES WE CAN!

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NB: Горiлка is Ukrainian for vodka. (Russian: Водка)

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"I am infallible, you should know that by now." --Dogbert
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 30 2011 12:35 GMT
#3357
On March 30 2011 21:27 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 21:10 Seronei wrote:
On March 30 2011 21:09 Blaz3k wrote:
Why is there an American flag? There are no American players in this tournament o.O
And Germany too rofl

I'm guessing they made that video before the qualification was done and there were Germans / Americans in it.



Pretty sure TT1 and Huk are American, both from the state of Canada iirc.


rofl

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 30 2011 12:36 GMT
#3358
On March 30 2011 18:31 Gudeldar wrote:
Oh wow, isn't yellow fever kind of an offensive thing to say?

... Yes, to white people.

Last I checked, Chris is white. Ive never heard that term applied in anything but a derisive way towards whites (or at least non-asians), almost always by other whites. So wtf.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 30 2011 12:36 GMT
#3359
Dimaga
Jaedong :3
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
March 30 2011 12:38 GMT
#3360
lol koreans are calling dimaga muscle zerg.
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