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On March 28 2011 03:33 tirentu wrote: What do you do against that? It is impossible to win against that. phoenix/colossus would prob be unbeatable vs Terran too if Terran didn't learn to focus fire the colossus. You can't target the void rays.
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Well I guess cruncher just decided to do the most abusive thing possible
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I love that he went for the build they talked about in Imbalanced-show, instead of 4gate. Stick it to Idra.
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The only thing I dont quite understand is why Idra didn't go mass muta. I know its more complicated then this, but Corruptors just DONT counter void rays. At all. Once Cruncher got like 13 or so Voids, Idra simply wasn't going to win with Hydra/Roach/Corruptor. Dunno if that's balanced or not, but its certainly how the game works at the moment.
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On March 28 2011 03:32 disco wrote:if by owned you mean just building an unbeatable army, yes. I could probably train a monkey to do what Cruncher did that game though.
I wouldnt say unbeatable. Sen has beat it several times already. I guess FG would help there, but I may be wrong.
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Idra never got infestors, never dropped, never got a nydus worm up, got out updraded and let Cruncher do whatever he wanted to do on 3 bases, he deserved the loss.
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I dunno... this strategy zergs are doing lately pushing up to 75-80 drones just isn't working.
If you're doing that you cant let toss max out.. because it ends up being a 140 army vs a 120 zerg army and gets owned. Even if you can re-max quick, toss will just roll over it again.
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On March 28 2011 03:34 norlock wrote: LoL Idra plays soo bad, with so many minerals and gass banked. He just doesn't know what to do, he teched up so late he could have builded ultra's and broodlords. But no he stays on corruptors hydra's and roaches.
Please stop talking. You have no idea about the PvZ matchup at all.
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ok day9 is starting to piss me off. He keeps saying idra needs hive tech, its not like ultras or broodlords are gonna do any better LOL voids > ultras, voids > broodlords seriously day9 learn your stuff.
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Also, why no mutas? Don't they do a better job vs VR's than Corruptors..?
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On March 28 2011 03:34 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 03:33 FreedonNadd wrote: Why no broodlords ? Zillion of bases and no broodlords ? He upgraded +2 air attack instead of greater spire. Go figure.
Broodlord's would have melted to the voidrays so quick...
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Idra, do not ruin my bracket even more! D:
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ahhh man that 1a void ray collusus takes so much skill. another sad day for the weak race. the best zergs in the world getting stomped...
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People yelling broodlords, including day9, need to take a second look at crunchers army composition.
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Jesus. I guess you NEED infestors in there? Idk, IdrA outplayed Cruncher so hard and still lost...
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mass ling/hydra with infesters to mind control cols also wrecks that army. So does knocking down rocks and base trading at 6. Point is, there are lots of options Idra had there given his vastly superior income.
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Not sure how to beat that, I mean obviously you shouldn't let the toss get to that point. But brood lords would just get raped by the voids yeah? I'm merely asking because it's rare I get to the point when I spawn Z v P. But I have NEVER won if the toss gets to that point. I just feel that army is SO cost effective. I mean, Idra had the WHOLE map dominated but he lost handily, and yet got pretty much rolled when cruncher pushed out.
Very good unit comp from cruncher... seems incredibly hard to stop as zerg.
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On March 28 2011 03:34 noobinator wrote: Cmon Idra... this is why infestors were buffed
Played pre patch bro.
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I'm glad this game took place. Now people can see how stupid this MU is!!!!!
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On March 28 2011 03:34 GrazerRinge wrote:blame idra sacrifising ~15 corruptor to mass voids. keep stupid comment to yourself
pretty sure he was freeing up supply, he was going to remake those corruptors anyway, why not lower the void ray count?
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