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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1761
On March 27 2011 04:04 Loonaii wrote:
QXC looks like John Lennon

awesome notion
dr Helvetica <3
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1762
Lets go QXC! So excited for this matchup!
aoe2fan
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden700 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1763
Koreans who always play on the korean server probably never experience lag. So this might aswell have been the first time MVP played with some major lag. Could throw your game of quite a bit.

Still were well played by Adel
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1764
stop talking about lag it ruins discussion grrrrrr
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1765
On March 27 2011 04:00 HowardRoark wrote:
Without mass collossus balls the TvP match up is certainly more enjoyable to watch.

BTW, could someone tell me how long ago these games were played? Is it like 1 day old or are all matches in this round already played?


I'd like to know this as well
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1766
I see no ads at all, but I've disabled adblock for both ustream and tl. Am I doin sth wrong ?
Yeah, whatever
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1767
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.


id take that bet, the thing people dont really say is that MVP is out there, he is a known figure and he has TONS of games to study, scot while DAMN good is no where near exposed as MVP so he can not be studied like MVP can

back to my point, ill take that bet!
No Artosis, you are robin
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1768

Well done to Adel, but there's no way he holds a nexus first on that map without MVP having 1-2 second lag.... if you take away the lag that marine and reaper kill everything and it's gg.

Adel played really well to take advantage of his early economy lead but you can't deny that without lag MVP wins that game.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:05:59
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1769
On March 27 2011 04:02 archdevilz wrote:
this is so stupid, the lag is so obvious. and the casters getting so happy that mvp lost.

seems like handicapped koreans without micro can lose . thats all

MVP didnt loose cos of lag. He lost cos he had no idea what to do against Adelscott's style. Just face it Adelscott was prepared 10x better.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1770
why do people blame lag? You can only blame lag if F91 is playing
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:07:10
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1771
It's obvious TvP relies a lot on marauders/marines micro/drop, thus lags affects Terran much more in this mu.

MVP MM micro on both game looked like the one of a low diamond level scrub.

Look at that reaper and marine both surrounded,by probes in game 1, are you fucking kidding me ? That was pure lag, nothing exciting to see Adel getting a huge lead because of MVP's inability to exploit Adel early game weakness since micro is undoable.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1772
On March 27 2011 04:04 iPood wrote:
toss is strongest race now by far.

Of all the explanations for that game, this is the worst one.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1773
I really don't want to blame any of this on lag but my god the beginning of metal was so terrible there's no way MVP just screwed up that bad with his marine getting surrounded and his reaper dying to probes with only 1 zealot out and no stalkers... I think any mid diamond player on NA could have done a better job with those two...
Apologize.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1774
On March 27 2011 04:04 WingEn wrote:
I can't see how people are not seeing the obvious lag with the lower than par kiting by MVP. If you guys even noticed, his kiting was delayed in the middle between moving and attacking which give the Protoss time to move back because the attack was delayed. And that made MVP unable to chase the Protoss army because of the distance.

By the way, it's 4AM in Korea. 3AM + when the series started. I'm pretty sure EU time is wayyyy closer to NA time.

Adelscott played well but MVP played very badly due to delay.


While the lag might be there these games are all casted from replays. Time is not a factor.
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1775
at this point I really don't see any koreans getting very far in this tournement. You simply can't compete at top level with latency. If you cant out micro probes with a reaper you know somethings wrong.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:07:12
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1776
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here.
500+posts : Lag bi-winning.
0-100 posts : Adelscott so good omfg, he outplayed MVP so heavily!!

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1777
We shouldn't be blaming this on the lag completely. Lag is playable, spikes aren't. We don't know what happened so

GRTZ Adelscott!
I had a good night of sleep.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1778
Yeah right because blink stalker micro does not suffer from lag at all amirite guys.
ZXRP
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa114 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1779
To all complaining about the lag, remember it was the same for both players.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe - Carl Sagan
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1780
On March 27 2011 04:02 vnlegend wrote:
Keep in mind that good TvP and average/bad TvP is almost all about micro. MVP lost a marine and a reaper to probe surrounds. Lag seemed to play a decent role here.


this. you could see late reactions all over the place which is untypical of mvp. not to take something away from adelscott, but i think without the lag which let mvp fall behind early in game 1 mvp would surely win against a player with 3k 1k overmins.

NesTea <3
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