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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1741
On March 27 2011 04:03 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 Tyree wrote:
Europe >> Korea >> NA

Thought we settled this last round of TSL guys?

Haha, European Star League ftw! :D

Don't forget that NA >> Europe in the first round. Rock/paper/scissors for the win!
WingEn
Profile Joined February 2011
84 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1742
I can't see how people are not seeing the obvious lag with the lower than par kiting by MVP. If you guys even noticed, his kiting was delayed in the middle between moving and attacking which give the Protoss time to move back because the attack was delayed. And that made MVP unable to chase the Protoss army because of the distance.

By the way, it's 4AM in Korea. 3AM + when the series started. I'm pretty sure EU time is wayyyy closer to NA time.

Adelscott played well but MVP played very badly due to delay.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1743
On March 27 2011 04:04 MiraKul wrote:
-.- do u guys even know what's the time in Korea?


So?
The games were probably played a few days ago.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1744
this isnt an fps, quit it with the lag excuses guys. Decision making won this game
Darkened
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1745
Are there any brackets left that are 100% correct at all? MVP was picked in 96% of them.Adel just making him look plain bad.Really love how Europeans showing what they've got.
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
March 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#1746
I think the result of TSL will be pretty different than IEM. TSL is done over a long period, so players have a lot of time to prepare. The foreigners actually have an advantage on this if they practice a lot, cause it's easier to learn the Korean's playstyles (easier to find their VODs/replays) and the Koreans mostly don't know the foreigners styles.

Go foreigners!
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1747
Next time I am betting on all underdogs
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
BoneDancr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States130 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1748
I really wish you guys would not use lag and take away players accomplishments or decisions. There were some pretty clear choices good and bad made by MVP that cost him that game. Not pushing the 3rd base when he won the first major encounter, over expanding after getting on a lead, Not upgrading, not making a single banshee. None of those CHOICES were caused by lag.

GG Adelscott, WP.
-end of line
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1749
I love how many people's immediate reaction is to shit all over Adelscott's accomplishment. Why are you so offended that MVP lost?
whole lies with a half smile
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1750
On March 27 2011 04:02 dcemuser wrote:
And before people complain about Genius's lag - game 1 is on KR, game 2 is on US, game 3 is on KR according to the rules.

EU vs Korea is the only exception since it is unplayable.

Nope, you're wrong, it will be the same problem, QXC lives in Europe right now.

Playing to NA from EU is fine

Playing to NA from KR is horrible
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1751
On March 27 2011 04:04 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.


You know that Adelscott is in EU and that they have a really similar lag, right?

You can't blame that game on lag... Did you actually watch the games/listened to the casters?


If you are not europian why you even comment on that? There is almost no lagg from EU to NA
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Argelia
Profile Joined March 2011
59 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1752
That wasn't the MVP in GSTL. Entertaining and happy for Adel nevertheles.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1753
On March 27 2011 04:03 Warpath wrote:
Lag was definitely a factor in the games, but certainly not enough to change the outcome of those games.


There is no way to make a claim like that. This best of 3 doesn't really prove anything, because of the lag. I wish TSL was offline
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
theriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1754
go go qxc go! :D
Rhokdar
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark240 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1755
People saying koreans have 2 sec delay got no clue what they are talking about. 2 seconds is ALOT. They have at most 0,2-0,3
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1756
On March 27 2011 04:04 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.

I'm sure MVP was asking himself "What's the point in playing, I have delay!". Christ dude, get a grip. He was 1-0 to Adels 2-2, did it lag so much that he couldn't upgrade as well?


Yea.. not killing Adel's 3rd when he could have easily after that first attack was also not due to lag, just an overly conservative decision imo.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
RogueStatus
Profile Joined August 2010
266 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1757
On March 27 2011 04:03 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 OneOther wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:00 qbs wrote:
On March 27 2011 03:59 Mojar wrote:
this is so sad mvp is at such a huge disadvantage because of the lag.


HAMMER AND BAN O,o

lame exuse

EU owns !! :D

it was played on NA server..how does only MVP get the lag?

EU > NA is fine
KOR > NA is horrible...


Adelscott outplayed MVP.. lag had minimal impact and wouldn't have made a difference in my opinion.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1758
My dad offered me a holy fucking great whiskey, I think it's time for me to drink it !

GG Adel, so good decision making with insane builds.
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1759
That was wicked! I expected MVP to 2-0 the toss....

Its great though to know a stim/concussive/shields doesn't (and shouldn't) beat more expensive upgrades like charge/armour/blink.

Adel teched to robo and than fell back on his superior ground upgrades...

Great and entertaining games to watch!
Very refreshing macro toss player..............
En Taro Adun, Executor!
MahanS
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany87 Posts
March 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#1760
On March 27 2011 04:02 LuckyFool wrote:
lag or no lag mvp was completely outplayed tactically and strategically both games.


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