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Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1801
On March 27 2011 04:05 Node wrote:
I love how many people's immediate reaction is to shit all over Adelscott's accomplishment. Why are you so offended that MVP lost?

Because it was an unfair game because of all the lag.
If it was on an equal playing field and Adel won then people wouldn't be saying that
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Array
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada46 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1802
you can tell there was lag, but you cant take anything away from adelscott, he played great
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1803
That was just amazing. I thought Adel was a goner in game 2. I will never whine about gateway units sucking again. Absolutely incredible. Adel played well, regardless of the lag issues. I remember day9 mentioning him before in the dailies. Now I understand why.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1804
MVP may not have been able to micro as well as he normally could, but his decision making was terrible. IIRC, he did great taking out adel's nexus at his 4th, but then he kept trying to engage at his main/nat. WTF!? They were even supply once that nexus went down with mvp even a little ahead, but then instead of continuing economic harrass he throws his army away trying to destroy meaningless buildings at the main/nat. Especially while adel was no longer making colossus.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:06:46
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1805
On March 27 2011 04:05 FrankWalls wrote:
stop talking about lag it ruins discussion grrrrrr


What, you don't like 20 pages of the same comments about lag back and forth?

Even if you say his micro was bad because of lag, his decision making was shit. He engaged at poor positions, didn't get upgrades, etc. He played poorly, lag or not.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
MaleficOR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States315 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1806
Hi Korea. Welcome to the TSL I hope you enjoy the games

GG Adel that was some good play. And lag whiners are almost as bad as balance freaks.
Its ihdra, like the beginning of idiot- IdrA
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1807
On March 27 2011 04:02 Andr3 wrote:
Dunno what to do, cheer for Adelscott or cry for MVP? ~_~


Cheer Adelscott! What else??
We saw two amazing games where Adelscott managed to beat the beast that is MVP.

Congrats to Adelscott!!
aka Wardo
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1808
On March 27 2011 04:05 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:00 HowardRoark wrote:
Without mass collossus balls the TvP match up is certainly more enjoyable to watch.

BTW, could someone tell me how long ago these games were played? Is it like 1 day old or are all matches in this round already played?


I'd like to know this as well


They said that match was played in 1.3 so they had to have been played after Tuesday at some point... but I don't know when exactly.
Apologize.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1809
On March 27 2011 04:04 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.


You know that Adelscott is in EU and that they have a really similar lag, right?

You can't blame that game on lag... Did you actually watch the games/listened to the casters?


Lag from eu to us is way smaller...its something like 170 ping versus Mvp probably sitting at like 300. That + Terran requires way more micro that Toss so it was favored to Adel on that as well.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1810
AT IEM QXC said he had pisspoor training in Spain and that it was showing in his play. This might effect the next game, but then he has a korean as an opponent so lag might be an issuie here to.
I am not young enough to know everything.
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1811
On March 27 2011 04:04 WingEn wrote:
I can't see how people are not seeing the obvious lag with the lower than par kiting by MVP. If you guys even noticed, his kiting was delayed in the middle between moving and attacking which give the Protoss time to move back because the attack was delayed. And that made MVP unable to chase the Protoss army because of the distance.

By the way, it's 4AM in Korea. 3AM + when the series started. I'm pretty sure EU time is wayyyy closer to NA time.

Adelscott played well but MVP played very badly due to delay.


It's a replay cast so the time it is atm doesnt mean shit :D
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1812
tactics!=strategy
griffith.583 (NA)
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1813
On March 27 2011 04:04 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.


You know that Adelscott is in EU and that they have a really similar lag, right?

You can't blame that game on lag... Did you actually watch the games/listened to the casters?


First there is no doubt that Adelscott played amazing, I dont want to take anything away from his win, because i think he deserved it.
Second, although that is what the casters may have said, it is not true, there is a little lag for both of them, but Korea on NA is a lot worse than EU on NA. So MVP did have a little worse lag that game than Adel, the first game Maraudar micro shows that
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:06:42
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1814
Guys how is it with lags and servers? I thought I read the games alternate between NA + KOR server, if the contestants are from NA / EU vs. KOR. Is that right, or did I just imagine reading that somewhere? (pm response would be much appreciated, I don't know how fast this thread moves right now)

Thank you!
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1815
On March 27 2011 04:05 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:04 iPood wrote:
toss is strongest race now by far.

Of all the explanations for that game, this is the worst one.

second is the "lag killed that game !@!@!"
really, even if it did we heard that one, both players have equal lag, get over it
dr Helvetica <3
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1816
People are saying lag isn't an issue. Pfft. Check Boxer's interview when he says lag is huge.

And MVP lost a marine AND a reaper to probe surrounds. That never happens to him. Those were huge losses early so he wasn't able to harrass a 15 Nexus.

RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1817
I don't think I've heard anyone with sufficient ethos corroborate that US-SK lag is worse than US-EU lag.

Sounds like a Rush Limbaugh-style talking point.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
SaroDarksbane
Profile Joined October 2010
United States55 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1818
Well, my bracket predictions are toast.
On March 27 2011 04:01 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:00 qbs wrote:
On March 27 2011 03:59 Mojar wrote:
this is so sad mvp is at such a huge disadvantage because of the lag.


HAMMER AND BAN O,o

lame exuse

EU owns !! :D

How is that a lame excuse? it's true

1. What is MVPs ping?
2. What is Adelscott's ping?

Don't know? Say so, and stop making stuff up.

Clearly, lag is the reason MVP got out-expanded, out-upgraded, and out-produced.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1819
Even if lag messed with MVP, it still shows that the gap between foreigners and Koreans is not big at all now. In BW, I bet Koreans could shit on foreigners with that lag. That is not the case in SCII, and that just says something in itself
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
March 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#1820
You guys have any idea how hard it is to update the brackets when you kill LP?
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