• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:31
CEST 15:31
KST 22:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
GSL CK - monthly team event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1830 users

[GCPL 3rd Place] EG vs Liquid - Page 26

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 63 Next
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#501
On March 18 2011 11:53 Offhand wrote:
So you can stop mass blink stalkers with broodlords. This doesn't make sense but it works.

inc didnt have nearly enough stalkers to stop 7 broods
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#502
On March 18 2011 11:53 Enervate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 Kurr wrote:
Well, Ret played well overall but his attack on incontrol's natural with his roaches earlier wasn't really a good decision IMO. Other than that, it was never really close because of the economy.

He was maxed. Why not attack?


Bad position, he lost a ton of roaches to forcefields and did pretty much no damage.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#503
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.


Yep, you have a grudge against incontrol, I think you've gotten your point across.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#504
Was a fun game to watch, but both of them have a lot to improve on. incontrol lost due to lack of scouting and ret won due to sheer volume of units from the hidden expo :/ Felt like ret should've been able to secure an easier win, though *maybe* he was planning to throw atleast a bit of his units away, to make room for hydras, dunno.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#505
On March 18 2011 11:53 iamke55 wrote:
Incontrol outplayed ret but still lost. Sad to see but hey, 1-1 is more exciting than 2-0 any day!



How? He didn't scout ret's third at all until way late. That basically gave ret the game right there.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#506
On March 18 2011 11:53 Offhand wrote:
So you can stop mass blink stalkers with broodlords. This doesn't make sense but it works.


It wasn't just blink stalkers and it wasn't just broodlords.

But yes, if you have zerglings or roaches right below the broodlords it's kind of hard for the blink stalkers to blink in and snipe them.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#507
EGiNcontrol vs Liquid'Ret on Xel'Naga Caverns! Game 3 - the deciding match for this series!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#508
On March 18 2011 11:53 Offhand wrote:
So you can stop mass blink stalkers with broodlords. This doesn't make sense but it works.


There weren't mass stalkers at that point...
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#509
On March 18 2011 11:54 halvorg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.


Yep, you have a grudge against incontrol, I think you've gotten your point across.


You should see how upset he gets on his stream about incontrol.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#510
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.

so how's the anti inc crusade going, mr esport-loving community guy
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 02:58:56
March 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#511
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.


iNcontroL usually doesn't 4gate lol.

Ret played well in game two, but two things really won it for him:

1. His early fourth base not being scouted
2. iNcontroL not getting his third up until super super late
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
March 18 2011 02:56 GMT
#512
On March 18 2011 11:54 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 Enervate wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:53 Kurr wrote:
Well, Ret played well overall but his attack on incontrol's natural with his roaches earlier wasn't really a good decision IMO. Other than that, it was never really close because of the economy.

He was maxed. Why not attack?


Bad position, he lost a ton of roaches to forcefields and did pretty much no damage.

Forcefields aren't free, and roaches are easily replaced. Otherwise, Inc wasn't going to be moving out without a 200/200 army anyways. He only countered because Ret attacked.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 02:57:24
March 18 2011 02:56 GMT
#513
On March 18 2011 11:54 halvorg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.


Yep, you have a grudge against incontrol, I think you've gotten your point across.

It is a grudge against protoss. I don't understand why they 4 gate when they are at the advantage (shakura's pvz). Specially a player hoping to join a premiere league and show good games. Go watch Kiwikaki vs Idra, that is how every protoss should play vs Zerg, there is no reason not to.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 02:58:04
March 18 2011 02:56 GMT
#514
On March 18 2011 11:55 bkrow wrote:
EGiNcontrol vs Liquid'Ret on Xel'Naga Caverns! Game 3 - the deciding match for this series!

iNc spawning bottom left, Ret spawning top right position! Ret opening pool first, iNc drops his gateway
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
March 18 2011 02:56 GMT
#515
On March 18 2011 11:53 iamke55 wrote:
Incontrol outplayed ret but still lost. Sad to see but hey, 1-1 is more exciting than 2-0 any day!


I disagree I thought Ret played a better game. DTs damage was minimized. Expanded and Macro'd better. Defended all of Incontrol's pushes and Transitioned better into the late game.

When incontrol lost his sentries he lost the game.
I have a dream, that some day I wouldn't see any imba comments in GSL threads.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 03:00:19
March 18 2011 02:57 GMT
#516
On March 18 2011 11:54 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 iamke55 wrote:
Incontrol outplayed ret but still lost. Sad to see but hey, 1-1 is more exciting than 2-0 any day!



How? He didn't scout ret's third at all until way late. That basically gave ret the game right there.


He took 2 hidden expos AND teched spire, all with no defense to hold off any kind of 5/6 gate timing attack. That's just gambling, and it worked this time, but it's not something you can do two games in a row.

edit: to hidiliho, any good player can look like they're macroing well if they take two hidden expos that don't get scouted. Maybe ret played well by poker standards, but I'm hesitant to say it by RTS standards.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 18 2011 02:57 GMT
#517
On March 18 2011 11:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.


iNcontoL usually doesn't 4gate lol.

Ret played well in game two, but two things really won it for him:

1. His early fourth base not being scouted
2. iNcontroL not getting his third up until super super late


Thats pretty much it. If he scouts the early 4th he could have pushed and won or if his 3rd went up sooner he wouldn't have been so far behind. He had some clutch DT's to keep him in longer than he should have been.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 18 2011 02:57 GMT
#518
On March 18 2011 11:53 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:50 The KY wrote:
On March 18 2011 11:46 ImHuko wrote:
See, there is absolutely no reason to 4gate


1 word; variation.

It is kind of obvious, Ret is much better player, incontrol can't hang, so he 4 gates.

we all know about your grudge and you were given a second chance and unbanned but your whining in this thread is getting extremely tiresome
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
March 18 2011 02:58 GMT
#519
On March 18 2011 11:55 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 11:53 Offhand wrote:
So you can stop mass blink stalkers with broodlords. This doesn't make sense but it works.


There weren't mass stalkers at that point...


It was when he engaged. He had like 2 collosi.

Granted Incontrol didn't attempt much blink micro w/ shield to get in extra damage.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 18 2011 02:58 GMT
#520
did this start 1 hour earlier? it said 23PM BRT, I came here 22:45 and Idra was winning his second game

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #126
herO vs ClassicLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings294
IndyStarCraft 206
TKL 192
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 223
IndyStarCraft 206
TKL 192
ProTech134
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6314
Horang2 3591
Bisu 3055
Jaedong 2304
Shuttle 713
EffOrt 625
Aegong 494
Killer 426
Stork 394
Larva 356
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 288
Soma 276
Light 263
Snow 226
Mini 222
Soulkey 199
ZerO 179
ggaemo 164
actioN 164
Rush 138
hero 84
JYJ 73
Sea.KH 68
Sharp 56
Hm[arnc] 53
Backho 44
Shinee 43
sSak 39
[sc1f]eonzerg 37
Free 27
Movie 22
Sacsri 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
Terrorterran 16
soO 15
zelot 13
GoRush 13
910 12
Noble 11
Icarus 7
Dota 2
Gorgc3193
qojqva1919
Counter-Strike
fl0m2266
oskar59
Other Games
singsing2020
Liquid`RaSZi1027
B2W.Neo814
hiko594
Lowko342
crisheroes294
XcaliburYe237
RotterdaM173
XaKoH 142
Mew2King74
QueenE71
ArmadaUGS55
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL11400
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1061
Other Games
BasetradeTV644
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV415
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
10h 29m
Replay Cast
19h 29m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 29m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
The PondCast
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.