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[SGL Semi-Finals] ROOT vs. EG - Page 16

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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
March 14 2011 03:56 GMT
#301
Damn, Kiwikaki plays this matchup so well. His opening unreinforced sentry-zealot 4-gate w/expansion behind is sexy as hell, and them he plays a great macro game followup.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 14 2011 03:56 GMT
#302
On March 14 2011 12:52 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 12:52 crms wrote:
gretorp epic fail on camera missing attack at bottom..


Yeah I am liking his casting but he keeps missing fights.

yeah i like his casting a lot too just needs better camera/awareness lol.
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
March 14 2011 03:56 GMT
#303
Has any protoss tried to make their deathball, then go base trade, after making a mothership?

If zerg counter attacks and tries to base trade (like strife), protoss can just recall back and kill the army?

Want to see that so bad
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
March 14 2011 03:57 GMT
#304
Lol that was bad from Strifeco. Why no Spire. got tunneling claws even after he saw the observer.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
FrostyTreats
Profile Joined January 2011
United States355 Posts
March 14 2011 03:57 GMT
#305
seems to me like kiwikaki likes to make a few collos then do a huge tech switch.. with the main idea behind the strat being that the zerg overmakes corrupters.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46458 Posts
March 14 2011 03:58 GMT
#306
On March 14 2011 12:56 Mailing wrote:
Has any protoss tried to make their deathball, then go base trade, after making a mothership?

If zerg counter attacks and tries to base trade (like strife), protoss can just recall back and kill the army?

Want to see that so bad


KiWiKaKi has made mass stalkers and gone around sniping hatcheries and then recalled home. There was a really famous game where he did that on XNC. He's such an innovative guy
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
March 14 2011 03:59 GMT
#307
omg i thought i was over after idra.drebie...., will there be a vod? Was kiwi vs idra a good watch?
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
March 14 2011 03:59 GMT
#308
On March 14 2011 12:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Domination by KiWiKaKi on BS

3-3... I wonder if EG is regretting their decision to let KiWi play

Ace match now!


I have to agree... I think EG would have done better playing 3v4 and not having to deal with KiWiKaKi. I expect both IdrA and Axslav would have had a better chance taking ddoro out.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 14 2011 04:00 GMT
#309
On March 14 2011 12:54 mordk wrote:
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On March 14 2011 12:47 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On March 14 2011 12:44 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 14 2011 12:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On March 14 2011 12:40 1Eris1 wrote:
IdrA should just not make hydras. go go roaches.

hydra are so good against stalkers though, and they have more range. if he went roach it would have been a lot worse for idra



Not really, thats a myth. Hydras barely even beat stalkers cost for cost.

well its all relaitve, roach are good cos of their health, stalker are good cos of their insane DPS. in an equal cost fight ling hydra will dominate mass stalker


You're ignoring blink. Normal stalkers get crushed by hydras, good blink micro throws all the math off. I don't think they're imbalanced though. Now that infestors deal extra damage to armored infestor/hydra will obliterate blink stalkers.

Idra needed either infestors or ultras, or both. And yes, ultras are great against blink stalkers. They both deal critical damage to them and tank lots of damage while hydras DPS. They actually force blink stalkers to immediately run away or die.
Ultras are a joke vs blink stalkers. Actually they're generally a joke in ZvP overall. They're only good if you have a huge economy to dump against an opponent relying too much on sentries (or if you already won).
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
March 14 2011 04:00 GMT
#310
On March 14 2011 12:57 FrostyTreats wrote:
seems to me like kiwikaki likes to make a few collos then do a huge tech switch.. with the main idea behind the strat being that the zerg overmakes corrupters.

Yeah except when the Zerg doesn't overmake corrupters (like IdrA, who made 8 corrupters which ended up killing 4 colossi), he still wins. I'm pretty sure that's not his plan at all. On top of that, he continued making colossi vs. IdrA in that game.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#311
On March 14 2011 12:56 Mailing wrote:
Has any protoss tried to make their deathball, then go base trade, after making a mothership?

If zerg counter attacks and tries to base trade (like strife), protoss can just recall back and kill the army?

Want to see that so bad

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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#312
On March 14 2011 12:59 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 12:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Domination by KiWiKaKi on BS

3-3... I wonder if EG is regretting their decision to let KiWi play

Ace match now!


I have to agree... I think EG would have done better playing 3v4 and not having to deal with KiWiKaKi. I expect both IdrA and Axslav would have had a better chance taking ddoro out.


Probably, but Ddoro is not bad himself. I don't understand why they didn't let Axslav play twice though, given ROOT's only condition was IdrA doesn't play twice.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
March 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#313
On March 14 2011 12:56 Mailing wrote:
Has any protoss tried to make their deathball, then go base trade, after making a mothership?

If zerg counter attacks and tries to base trade (like strife), protoss can just recall back and kill the army?

Want to see that so bad


Don't have to force a base trade with a deathball, its called a deathball for a reason because you can you know..go kill them. Thats their base and army included.
DAMMERUNG
Profile Joined March 2011
27 Posts
March 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#314
Axslav is a beast. This pvp will be awesome, I hope...
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 04:03:11
March 14 2011 04:02 GMT
#315
I hate to disappoint you but PvP is his worst matchup while KiWiKaKi is a beast at it. In fact Axslav hardly ever beats KiWiKaKi.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
March 14 2011 04:04 GMT
#316
What the hell is Axslav doing? I don't see how his build could ever stop a 4gate...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#317
im just sad finals is pvp.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
March 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#318
Axslavs build was completely terrible...
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
March 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#319
sooo solid by kiwikaki :D
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
March 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#320
yeahhhhhhhhh Kiwikaki

what a boss
Jaedong plz
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