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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany287 Posts
March 27 2011 01:50 GMT
#1421
On March 27 2011 10:48 Delicious.Cake wrote:
Wow Socke played the first game extremely well.

Deserved 1:0


SOCKE handing out some Bratwurst and Sauerkraut tonight. GO GO GO!
http://de.twitch.tv/semtext | FBH, Socke, WhiteRa, GoOdy, TLO
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 01:50:53
March 27 2011 01:50 GMT
#1422
On March 27 2011 10:47 Docmedical wrote:
I haven't actually seen Cruncher play, but based on the people I see he is beating, I think Idra should see him as a threat


Idra knows just how cheesy Cruncher is, as long as he doesn't make stupid mistakes he should win comfortably.

SuperNova in a really dominant position vs SeleCT
nymeria
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States161 Posts
March 27 2011 01:50 GMT
#1423
maybe if cruncher was on a noob team like eg/root he wouldn't be disrespected as much

User was warned for this post
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#1424
What I don't get is how does oGsSTC get to the finals each time with all the cross server lag? but all the other gosu koreans get knocked out? Does STC not get lag? oGs team connects better maybe?
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
March 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#1425
yo! time for dts! :DDD
No carpal tunnel no skill
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
March 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#1426
On March 27 2011 10:50 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:47 Docmedical wrote:
I haven't actually seen Cruncher play, but based on the people I see he is beating, I think Idra should see him as a threat


Idra knows just how cheesy Cruncher is, as long as he doesn't make stupid mistakes he should win comfortably.

SuperNova in a really dominant position vs SeleCT


I'd say it's a 60-40 for Idra no more.. Idra's not a dominant player.. no more than Strelok is.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
March 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#1427
On March 27 2011 10:50 Termit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:39 Jakkerr wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:35 TazzDingo wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:35 Jakkerr wrote:
Anyway, I dunno if there's any info but wazzup with all the 1-0's in the first rounds?
are those forfeited matches or wut?

yup. no-shows.


lol :/ thats quite some no shows then
especially almost every1 from root o0
not very professional for a team that says they are lol

Thats because they are all bootcamping in the same house and the internet went down so they couldnt play.


lol valid reason.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
March 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#1428
On March 27 2011 10:51 skrzmark wrote:
What I don't get is how does oGsSTC get to the finals each time with all the cross server lag? but all the other gosu koreans get knocked out? Does STC not get lag? oGs team connects better maybe?

I don't think he even stays in the oGs house, or does he?
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#1429
On March 27 2011 10:51 skrzmark wrote:
What I don't get is how does oGsSTC get to the finals each time with all the cross server lag? but all the other gosu koreans get knocked out? Does STC not get lag? oGs team connects better maybe?


Connection does depend heavily on ISP.
I've read on PlayXP that KT lines only has around 250~ ms for KR to NA,
while other ISPs will have 500ms+. Maybe oGs has KT?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 01:53:59
March 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#1430
On March 27 2011 10:46 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:42 Azarkon wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:39 cuppatea wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:32 s4life wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:30 daxile wrote:
this game is volatile as it is, any sort of lag can be a huge factor imo. I think cross server games are a bit unfair, especially to koreans who are getting the short end of the stick here. Not a lag rant, CrunCher played well but still kind of unnerving to see people like MKP lose so easily.


And why is that? he was a B-teamer before, not a jeadong or flash .. other players are improving and Cruncher seems to be one of those, seriously, MKP might have reached his ceiling for all we know.


And Cruncher was a mediocre WC3 player, which puts him far below BW B teamers in RTS terms.

MarineKing is legitimately one of the very best players in the world, results prove this.


MKP has one of the worst TvPs out of the Terran GSL finalists, while Cruncher has one of the best PvTs in the foreigner's scene (apparently - because he appears to be rolling Strelok as well). The skill gap in SC 2 isn't so big that MKP should auto-win.


Is that why he all-killed the top 5 protoss (except MC) in TPZ?
Explain to me who has better TvP than MKP.. MVP is having hard times vs P as well.
All terrans are having trouble vs P in general, it's not just MKP...


MVP has better TvP than MKP. Most of the Slayers Terrans have better TvP than MKP. Even Boxer might have better TvP than MKP. The difference between all of these Terrans and MKP is that they don't rely on one-base/two-base marine tank pushes. They make marauders, they make ghosts.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#1431
On March 27 2011 10:52 Termit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:51 skrzmark wrote:
What I don't get is how does oGsSTC get to the finals each time with all the cross server lag? but all the other gosu koreans get knocked out? Does STC not get lag? oGs team connects better maybe?

I don't think he even stays in the oGs house, or does he?


I'm saying oGs house because Zenio and Supernova in Finals/Semi's
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#1432
On March 27 2011 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:46 Namu wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:42 Azarkon wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:39 cuppatea wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:32 s4life wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:30 daxile wrote:
this game is volatile as it is, any sort of lag can be a huge factor imo. I think cross server games are a bit unfair, especially to koreans who are getting the short end of the stick here. Not a lag rant, CrunCher played well but still kind of unnerving to see people like MKP lose so easily.


And why is that? he was a B-teamer before, not a jeadong or flash .. other players are improving and Cruncher seems to be one of those, seriously, MKP might have reached his ceiling for all we know.


And Cruncher was a mediocre WC3 player, which puts him far below BW B teamers in RTS terms.

MarineKing is legitimately one of the very best players in the world, results prove this.


MKP has one of the worst TvPs out of the Terran GSL finalists, while Cruncher has one of the best PvTs in the foreigner's scene (apparently - because he appears to be rolling Strelok as well). The skill gap in SC 2 isn't so big that MKP should auto-win.


Is that why he all-killed the top 5 protoss (except MC) in TPZ?
Explain to me who has better TvP than MKP.. MVP is having hard times vs P as well.
All terrans are having trouble vs P in general, it's not just MKP...


MVP has better TvP than MKP. Most of the Slayers Terrans have better TvP than MKP. Even Boxer might have better TvP than MKP. The difference between all of these Terrans and MKP is that they don't rely on one-base/two-base marine tank pushes. They make marauders, they make ghosts. They win.


What are you basing all this on?
I think saying MVP has better TvP than MKP is rather bold, as MVP has been struggling immensely recently vs Toss, as he JUST lost to adelscott 0-2, lost to Genius & Alicia and got knocked down to code A, etc etc. Which terran in slayers has better TvP?
I'm not sure about boxer vs MKP, as I can't seem to recall boxer facing any good protoss players.

Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#1433
the combat shields are super clutch for select right now
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#1434
On March 27 2011 10:51 skrzmark wrote:
What I don't get is how does oGsSTC get to the finals each time with all the cross server lag? but all the other gosu koreans get knocked out? Does STC not get lag? oGs team connects better maybe?


TSL and FXO way different, you are able to prepare for 1 opponent every 2 weeks. Also, I doubt many of opponents have as much info on him as people do for MVP, Nestea, Jinro etc..
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 27 2011 01:56 GMT
#1435
I just realized midnight the chinese caster is sipping water from a wine glass. What a boss.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 27 2011 01:56 GMT
#1436
On March 27 2011 10:50 nymeria wrote:
maybe if cruncher was on a noob team like eg/root he wouldn't be disrespected as much

Although your wording is somewhat over the top there is indeed some truth to this, sadly.
Off-season = best season
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#1437
On March 27 2011 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:46 Namu wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:42 Azarkon wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:39 cuppatea wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:32 s4life wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:30 daxile wrote:
this game is volatile as it is, any sort of lag can be a huge factor imo. I think cross server games are a bit unfair, especially to koreans who are getting the short end of the stick here. Not a lag rant, CrunCher played well but still kind of unnerving to see people like MKP lose so easily.


And why is that? he was a B-teamer before, not a jeadong or flash .. other players are improving and Cruncher seems to be one of those, seriously, MKP might have reached his ceiling for all we know.


And Cruncher was a mediocre WC3 player, which puts him far below BW B teamers in RTS terms.

MarineKing is legitimately one of the very best players in the world, results prove this.


MKP has one of the worst TvPs out of the Terran GSL finalists, while Cruncher has one of the best PvTs in the foreigner's scene (apparently - because he appears to be rolling Strelok as well). The skill gap in SC 2 isn't so big that MKP should auto-win.


Is that why he all-killed the top 5 protoss (except MC) in TPZ?
Explain to me who has better TvP than MKP.. MVP is having hard times vs P as well.
All terrans are having trouble vs P in general, it's not just MKP...


MVP has better TvP than MKP. Most of the Slayers Terrans have better TvP than MKP. Even Boxer might have better TvP than MKP. The difference between all of these Terrans and MKP is that they don't rely on one-base/two-base marine tank pushes. They make marauders, they make ghosts.


They're both equally terrible at TvP, imo lol.
FrostyTreats
Profile Joined January 2011
United States355 Posts
March 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#1438
On March 27 2011 10:55 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:46 Namu wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:42 Azarkon wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:39 cuppatea wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:32 s4life wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:30 daxile wrote:
this game is volatile as it is, any sort of lag can be a huge factor imo. I think cross server games are a bit unfair, especially to koreans who are getting the short end of the stick here. Not a lag rant, CrunCher played well but still kind of unnerving to see people like MKP lose so easily.


And why is that? he was a B-teamer before, not a jeadong or flash .. other players are improving and Cruncher seems to be one of those, seriously, MKP might have reached his ceiling for all we know.


And Cruncher was a mediocre WC3 player, which puts him far below BW B teamers in RTS terms.

MarineKing is legitimately one of the very best players in the world, results prove this.


MKP has one of the worst TvPs out of the Terran GSL finalists, while Cruncher has one of the best PvTs in the foreigner's scene (apparently - because he appears to be rolling Strelok as well). The skill gap in SC 2 isn't so big that MKP should auto-win.


Is that why he all-killed the top 5 protoss (except MC) in TPZ?
Explain to me who has better TvP than MKP.. MVP is having hard times vs P as well.
All terrans are having trouble vs P in general, it's not just MKP...


MVP has better TvP than MKP. Most of the Slayers Terrans have better TvP than MKP. Even Boxer might have better TvP than MKP. The difference between all of these Terrans and MKP is that they don't rely on one-base/two-base marine tank pushes. They make marauders, they make ghosts. They win.


What are you basing all this on?
I think saying MVP has better TvP than MKP is rather bold, as MVP has been struggling immensely recently vs Toss, as he JUST lost to adelscott 0-2, lost to Genius & Alicia and got knocked down to code A, etc etc. Which terran in slayers has better TvP?
I'm not sure about boxer vs MKP, as I can't seem to recall boxer facing any good protoss players.


Terrans need to realize that altho bio may be good on paper vs toss... Forcefield is actually 100x better then terrans credit it. till then we gonna keep seeing these stupid "timing" pushes.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
March 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#1439
On March 27 2011 10:46 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 10:44 Spacekyod wrote:
On March 27 2011 10:41 chenchen wrote:
Lol guys, BW B teamers are literally the most skilled players with the most potential to switch over from another RTS to SC2, because the A teamers are still playing BW. MKP, MC, MMA, Bomber . . ALL B teamers. MVP was a lower tier A teamer and look how hard and how long he raped everyone.

The older BW players and legends weren't really that good at BW by 2009-2010.


MVP rolled for one GSL season. Now look at where he is.

what? osl top4 is lower tier A ? u got to be kidding me
by the way, he's in code A only because he's TvP is really bad


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/MVP

He got a single Ro36 OSL appearance and made Ro8 in an MSL.

Yes, he was a scrub A-teamer.
powerade = dragoon blood
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
March 27 2011 01:58 GMT
#1440
This Supernova dude seems to be tearing it up.. hasn't lost a single game since the start. Maybe Select should complain about the lag too??

Seriously guys, the turnover of players in SC2 is much faster than most fanboys would like to admit.. I would consider Supernova a favorite over MKP any day.
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